I have come across this:

Have you heard or used these products available from
www.PlacqueAttackStore.com  
http://www.petkin.com/1-800-PETKIN-1/product_information.jsp?products_id=82
- into drinking water
http://www.getplacqueattack.com/?mid=984802  - spray into mouth

I am going to give it a try. So far, I have been adding a tiny bit of apple
cider vinegar into their water, few drops more every day - helpful for many
things.
Natalie

-----Original Message-----
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 4:54 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Money in trust for cats........

Do you do anything for their teeth to keep them from needing dental  
work?  I know this is a little off the original question but I have  
several ferals that are almost impossible to vet.  They learned from  
the trap and neuter/spay.  I would like to support their health in any  
way I can.

Thanks.
On Feb 28, 2011, at 11:06 PM, Gloria B. Lane wrote:

> You know, mine have very rarely needed dental work. I've had many  
> cats and only 1 hyperthyroid, and he's 22 - not adoptable anyhow.   
> Go figure.
>
> Gloria
>
>
> On Feb 28, 2011, at 9:10 PM, Susan Hoffman wrote:
>
>> When I say senior I'm talking about cats in the 10-15 year age  
>> range and it seems they invariably need dental work when they come  
>> into rescue.  We also always do full blood panels for anyone over 8  
>> years of age.  We don't want to risk adopting out a cat who is  
>> hyperthyroid or diabetic or in renal failure to someone who just is  
>> not prepared to deal with that.  Dealing with these things before  
>> listing for adoption has made all the difference in the world in  
>> finding good homes for cats past 8-10 years of age.
>>
>> --- On Mon, 2/28/11, Gloria Lane <gbl...@aristotle.net> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Gloria Lane <gbl...@aristotle.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Money in trust for cats........
>>> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
>>> Date: Monday, February 28, 2011, 6:56 PM
>>> We provide the same vet care to all
>>> adult cats regardless of the age. I don't find the seniors
>>> to cost more, but of course most folks don't want to adopt a
>>> pet that has a clearly limited short lifespan.
>>>
>>> Gloria
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 28, 2011, at 3:54 PM, katskat1 <katsk...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh?  Is this a nation-wide requirement or certain
>>> areas? And for
>>>> senior animals only? I never heard that in my neck of
>>> the woods and
>>>> have rescued and found homes for many dogs and several
>>> cats.  Of
>>>> course, they are usually younger and are always fully
>>> vetted before I
>>>> take them out for Adoption Days but.....
>>>>
>>>> Dental required?  I have never done dental stuff
>>> for any of my
>>>> animals.....I occasionally brush dogs teeth if they
>>> have tartar but
>>>> make sure they eat and chew the right stuff so that
>>> isn't a problem.
>>>> Cats the same.  Never had an animal that had a
>>> bad tooth needing
>>>> extraction and I have had a boat load of
>>> animals.  Am I missing
>>>> something?  Where are these requirements in
>>> place?  And just for older
>>>> animals?
>>>>
>>>> My one senior kitty has a senior blood panel once a
>>> year.  All the
>>>> rest who aren't positives have std vaccinations
>>> including for FeLV
>>>> annually.
>>>>
>>>> This gets more and more difficult when all you want to
>>> do is love them
>>>> and let them live out their lives in happiness and
>>> peace.
>>>>
>>>> K
>>>>
>>>> On 2/28/11, Susan Hoffman <susan_hoff...@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> What makes the $500/$1000 inadequate is that, from
>>> a rescue standpoint,
>>>>> older animals have to be fully vetted before they
>>> can be listed for
>>>>> adoption.  That includes dental which is so
>>> expensive.  Adopters are
>>>>> reluctant to take on older or special needs
>>> animals because they are afraid
>>>>> of the cost.  Now, if the animals are current
>>> on cleanings and extractions
>>>>> and have recent senior blood panels then that
>>> makes all the difference.
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On Mon, 2/28/11, katskat1 <katsk...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: katskat1 <katsk...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Money in trust for
>>> cats........
>>>>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>>>>> Date: Monday, February 28, 2011, 1:35 PM
>>>>>> Some great ideas/questions!
>>>>>> Thank you all and keep them coming.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right now I am on unemployment and will
>>> eventually start
>>>>>> receiving a
>>>>>> small retirement amt each month that will
>>> barely pay the
>>>>>> mortgage and
>>>>>> food so realizing the $500/$1000 was so
>>> totally inadequate
>>>>>> - which I
>>>>>> should have known - was a set back I will have
>>> to deal
>>>>>> with.  I guess
>>>>>> I was thinking it would be a bridge until the
>>> care-taker
>>>>>> could find
>>>>>> forever homes for them.  That, of course,
>>> leads to
>>>>>> another concern
>>>>>> about how to be sure the care-taker could be
>>> trusted to
>>>>>> find good
>>>>>> homes..............................
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not sure about those on-line fund raising
>>> sites someone
>>>>>> suggested......beg for money?  I don't
>>> think I would
>>>>>> give money to a
>>>>>> stranger on line with no real info as to where
>>> it will
>>>>>> really go so
>>>>>> why would I expect anyone else to do so?
>>> Sounds
>>>>>> strange.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I like the idea of someone moving into house
>>> but who would
>>>>>> oversee
>>>>>> that person to make sure the animals are
>>> receiving the care
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> should? My few remaining relatives live many
>>> states away
>>>>>> and are
>>>>>> within a few years of my age or older. What
>>> happens to the
>>>>>> person/house after the animals alive at the
>>> time of my
>>>>>> death are no
>>>>>> longer living? Maybe as part of the will the
>>> house and
>>>>>> property could
>>>>>> revert to a rescue site?  Yikes!
>>> How to do that
>>>>>> with zoning laws and
>>>>>> all........ And I would have to be sure the
>>> house could be
>>>>>> paid for at
>>>>>> my death........ ARGHHHHHH...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wish I knew a way to find an attorney I
>>> could trust to be
>>>>>> familiar
>>>>>> with these types of situations AND share my
>>> love for these
>>>>>> furry kids.
>>>>>> Maybe listed in the yellow pages under
>>> "Attorneys - Animal
>>>>>> Trusts"???
>>>>>> or something?  ;-)  And would be
>>> willing and able
>>>>>> to do it without
>>>>>> charging an arm and a leg.  Sigh.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sooooooooooooooooo much to think about.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Keep the ideas coming.. And thank you all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kat
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/26/11, Peggy Verdonck <jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> I'm so glad my family knows how important
>>> my cats and
>>>>>> other pets are to me!
>>>>>>> Most my family members and friends are
>>> huge animal
>>>>>> lovers and I have no
>>>>>>> doubt that they will take great care of
>>> mine, if
>>>>>> something would happen to
>>>>>>> me and my husband.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2011/2/26 dana giordano <giordano.d...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't know how old the cats are but
>>> (i'm sorry)
>>>>>> the amounts I am seeing
>>>>>>>> (500/1000) doesn't seem like it would
>>> be enough to
>>>>>> take care of the cats
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> long other than maybe food needs. I
>>> definitely
>>>>>> could be wrong. And maybe
>>>>>>>> that's all it's intended for.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Natalie that is a fantastic idea!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wanted to share some potential
>>> solutions just to
>>>>>> put it out there?  Love
>>>>>>>> that one though. (note:
>>> Must.buy.house. :P)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Has anyone thought of raising funds
>>> via chipin,
>>>>>> maybe through a local
>>>>>>>> 501c3
>>>>>>>> so their donators will get tax
>>> deductions, or
>>>>>> perhaps kickstarter, or
>>>>>>>> pepsi
>>>>>>>> refresh? These are very popular fund
>>> raising sites
>>>>>> nowadays and you can
>>>>>>>> choose different amounts...you just
>>> have to hit
>>>>>> the minimum to get the
>>>>>>>> money
>>>>>>>> I think but people can always
>>> contribute more than
>>>>>> requested, especially
>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>> you state that in the description of
>>> why you are
>>>>>> looking for funds.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And just fyi - there are actually cat
>>> retirement
>>>>>> homes out there - did
>>>>>>>> anyone know that? Isn't that a smart
>>> idea? Wanted
>>>>>> to put that out there
>>>>>>>> too,
>>>>>>>> although they make you pay upfront for
>>> the
>>>>>> lifetime care of the cats.  I'm
>>>>>>>> sure they would give you a figure on
>>> the costs if
>>>>>> you ask, and maybe it's
>>>>>>>> just a good idea to have that number
>>> for a goal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, if there are no no-kill shelters
>>> near you
>>>>>> perhaps you could find
>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>> that are sort of nearby and see if
>>> local rescue
>>>>>> groups would be willing to
>>>>>>>> transport them to that shelter, the
>>> shelter take
>>>>>> them, and get that
>>>>>>>> contact
>>>>>>>> info out to family and in the will so
>>> there is a
>>>>>> plan in place and it will
>>>>>>>> get done.  Also, they may have
>>> ideas on wills
>>>>>> and after-care for animals.
>>>>>>>> I'm sure they deal with it all the
>>> time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's smart to think ahead. Good to see
>>> people
>>>>>> doing so. I'm fairly young
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> I think all my kitties will be gone by
>>> I'm 60 (I
>>>>>> have 7.) which was just a
>>>>>>>> lucky thing, not a well-thought out
>>> thing, so
>>>>>> hopefully I won't have to
>>>>>>>> deal
>>>>>>>> with this myself.  If I want
>>> animals after
>>>>>> that I decided I'm only going
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> foster them because of exactly this
>>> situation.
>>>>>> Mostly because I have no
>>>>>>>> money to even put away what you guys
>>> have! :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 7:24 AM,
>>> Lorrie <felineres...@kvinet.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Kat,  This is exactly what
>>> I have
>>>>>> done so far.  In my will I have
>>>>>>>>> left $1,000 for each of my 14
>>> cats.  It
>>>>>> is the best I can think of to
>>>>>>>>> assure they are cared for.
>>> However, I have no
>>>>>> way of knowing some
>>>>>>>>> unscrupulous person won't take the
>>> money and
>>>>>> dump the cat!!  It's the
>>>>>>>>> big question of WHO will take each
>>> cat, and
>>>>>> how can I be certain they
>>>>>>>>> will be taken care of. We have no
>>> local
>>>>>> no-kill shelter, and the
>>>>>>>>> humane society in our small town
>>> is
>>>>>> worthless. They are mainly
>>>>>>>>> concerned with dogs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My grown kids all adore cats, but
>>> they have a
>>>>>> bunch of their own, so
>>>>>>>>> I know they couldn't take all 14
>>> of
>>>>>> mome.  It is such a big problem,
>>>>>>>>> but I must get it resolved as time
>>> is running
>>>>>> out.  I have enough
>>>>>>>>> money from a small inheritance to
>>> insure the
>>>>>> care and safety of my
>>>>>>>>> cats, but overseeing this is the
>>> huge
>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lorrie in WV
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 02-25, katskat1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I too had this concern as I
>>> run a small
>>>>>> rescue as well as having
>>>>>>>>>> several cats and dogs of my
>>> own.
>>>>>> In my 60's, live along female.  I
>>>>>>>>>> finally talked to a lawyer
>>> while
>>>>>> arranging my will and found the thing
>>>>>>>>>> that makes me feel best.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I allocated a certain lump sum
>>> per
>>>>>> animal ($500/cat, $1000/dog as I
>>>>>>>>>> couldn't afford to set up a
>>> trust altho
>>>>>> am still considering that) in
>>>>>>>>>> my will for any and all
>>> animals alive at
>>>>>> the time of my death.  This
>>>>>>>>>> money goes to the local no
>>> kill shelter
>>>>>> or humane society to be used
>>>>>>>>>> specifically for each animal
>>> with the
>>>>>> sole purpose of allowing it to
>>>>>>>>>> live its' full, natural life
>>> in a
>>>>>> healthy and natural manner, adopted
>>>>>>>>>> or fostered if possible and
>>> NOT to be
>>>>>> euthanized unless two vets
>>>>>>>>>> concur it is a medical
>>> neccessity.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best I could do but it will
>>> hopefully
>>>>>> serve the purpose.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anybody have any ideas on how
>>> I can make
>>>>>> it more air tight?  I don't
>>>>>>>>>> know if I would have much more
>>> money
>>>>>> than that as I don't own much but
>>>>>>>>>> I have asked my one sister to
>>> allow it
>>>>>> from life insurance if
>>>>>>>>>> necessary and she has agreed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Good luck..... and NEVER allow
>>> your
>>>>>> animals to go anywhere you haven't
>>>>>>>>>> visited and seen several
>>> times, at
>>>>>> several times of day, unnanounced
>>>>>>>>>> if possible.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> kat
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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