I use to have indoor/outdoor cats, but now they are strickly indoor. There are 
so many dangers outside such as cars, dogs, and the chance of encountering a 
another cat with felv, for example. I do feel sorry for them sometimes, but I 
have to say I would trade places with any one of them to live the life of 
they experinece indoors. They do "long" to go outside sometimes, but I open up 
the windows and let them smell the fresh air. I don't feel too guilty about it. 

Update on Amber, my felv kitty. I've had her three and a half weeks now and she 
is looking and feeling so much better! She has gained weight and still has a 
good appetite. She is so sweet. My husband is building her a "kitty palace", 
which is eight feet long, four feet wide, and six feet tall. We bought a cat 
tree to put in it so she can climb and get her exercise. I have been keeping 
in a much smaller cage (the only on I have) and letting her roam in the 
basement a few hours a day when I can. I so wish I could bring her upstairs 
the other cats, but just don't feel I should take the risk. I am still 
struggling a little bit with putting them at risk at all, but it is what it is! 
 I still plan to have Amber retested in a couple of months. Whatever happens, I 
am still glad I have been given the opportunity to make a difference in her 
life. Jannes 

From: Natalie <at...@optonline.net>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 8:13:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

As an adopter, my views on this are very strict and well-defined - I am
responsible for placing cats in the safest possible homes, and I would do no
less.  I need to be able to sleep at night, knowing that the cats that I
rescued and invested so much time, energy, and emotion will be safe and
happy for a long time.
Yes, I agree, there still are a few safe area left, but not many and none
are 100% safe, ever. It is true that times used to be safer for cats to be
outdoors - ours always had been, especially when I was growing up, until one
of our kittens was killed by a car....Unfortunately, it takes many people to
understand this only after a tragedy occurs.  When an adopter tells me that
their cat ALWAYS sat on the front porch, and never left....and they intend
to do the same with a new adopted cat, I say NO!  Their old cat may have
indeed done that, but it doesn't mean that a new cat will do it: It takes
ONLY ONE TIME - chasing a squirrel or bird across the street, and WHAM!
Cats can be perfectly happy indoors with tall cat trees by a window, a
window perch, the right kind of toys to keep them interested and active.
More and more people construct outdoor enclosures; simple ones to really
elaborate ones, even just a little window screened porch. I don't believe
that cats need to hunt; if they are homeless and hungry, yes, but there's no
need for a well-fed cat to kill small wildlife, not for food, but for fun
and the reflex of chasing something (could be a toy).  

-----Original Message-----
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 7:56 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

This is a hot topic, but I agree humans and loss of habitat
are the main threat to birds. 

As for keeping cats inside.  I've had cats all my life and they
have always been indoor/outdoor cats.  All of them have lived to
16 to 17 years of age unless they've had some genetic problem like
heart disease.  My cats were all rescues and they lived outside
before I had them, and they are totally miserable inside. 

It's really only the last couple decades that cats have been living
indoors, but the invention of cat litter and urban sprawl have made
us think all cats have the perfect life indoors, when in reality,
cats are happier if they can live outdoors. They are programmed to
hunt small animals....which is the best nutrition for them. They need
to climb trees, stalk at night with their night vision, and be free.
Cats were not made for sitting in a window sill, and a prison is a
prison no matter how many cat toys and kitty kondos we buy for them.

It's true that some outdoor cats have a shorter life expectancy, but
this mostly depends on where they live. If they live in a safe area
with little or no traffic then I feel they should be allowed to be
outside. There are some cats who will never willingly settle for the
indoor life.  We live in the middle of the woods on a dead end road
with no traffic and our cats are allowed to go outside. I rarely see
them catch a bird, but they catch many mice & moles.  I feel sad to
see anything killed, but cats and dogs are predators and this is what
they were designed to do.


>  Sorry but that information is outdated or biased. The number one 
>  killer of birds is humans due to habitat loss or construction for same.
> > Humans: The Number One Threat to Birds
> > http://www.alleycat.org/NetCommunity/Page.aspx?pid=325
> > 
> > SomeWhere Sam

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