Thanks Natalie..... I meant the Yahoo group Beth mentioned, Animal
Wish List.  You have to have a PayPal account to use Chipin and I
don't have one.  And I wouldn't want to create and use one if I want
the money to go directly to my vet right?  She would have to have an
account?  Don't know if she does, if I can/should set one up for her
(she is out of town), etc.

I will work on it tho cause I can use the help for Luke.

Kat

On 7/11/11, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote:
> No, just go to www.chipin.com - instructions right there on how to proceed
> point by point!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of katskat1
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 1:53 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG
>
> Beth and Natalie
>
> Thanks for the ideas.  I had heard of Chipin but not the Animal Wish
> List. Do I just do a search on Animal Wish List to find it?
>
> I didn't want to "beg", if feels weird but if these kids need it I
> guess I can learn.  My vet is helping me as much as she can but is a
> small town vet with no receptionist, no nothing.  Her office is in an
> old house in town, one exam room and a countertop with file cabinets
> behind it for paperwork.  Surgery is done in a small room in the
> basement with her mom helping to monitor heart/breathing, etc.  Sounds
> hookie but she does good work.  And she cares.  Asking the $ be sent
> directly to her is perfect!  I may give it a shot.
>
> Kat
>
> On 7/10/11, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> Use www.chipin.com - very easy and people do contribute to just about
>> anything!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:19 AM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG
>>
>> Try putting a plea for vet help on Animal Wish List. It's a Yahoo Group.
>> Have funds go directly to the vet. Most vets will work with u on payments.
>>
>> katskat1 <katsk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks to all I have decided if I can find the $ I am going to take
>>>Luke to the vet and have some/all of her rotten teeth removed.  She is
>>>obviously in discomfort and her breath has gotten progressively worse.
>>> She is ratty looking and apparently has been sickly for a long time
>>>before I started feeding her as a stray but she still wants to live.
>>>
>>>I was very apprehensive about doing this to a cat that stays outside -
>>>has to - won't come in, fights to get back out and my inside cats are
>>>ALL negatives.  But she sticks around and I don't have many options.
>>>
>>>Now, if only I could successfully medicate her.  She will not eat
>>>anything, kitten milk replacement, dry/wet food, treats, NOTHING with
>>>any med of any kind.  Trying to syringe her is like fighting a wind
>>>storm with lots of claws and then we are both so stressed we are
>>>breathing hard.  Not good for her.  Or me.  So I am trying to give her
>>>quality of whatever life she has........
>>>
>>>Hopefully yanking rotten, loose teeth will help.
>>>
>>>kat
>>>
>>>On 7/8/11, MaiMaiPG <maima...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> His tongue does not hang out the side of his mouth nor does he look
>>>> like he is panting....and he does look adorable.  Sorry to give any
>>>> other impression.
>>>> On Jul 8, 2011, at 1:53 AM, Natalie wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The hanging out tongue must be something other than missing teeth.
>>>>> We have
>>>>> quite a few cats with no teeth, and their tongues don't hang out the
>>>>> side of
>>>>> their mouths, if anything, the tips of the tongue might stick out in
>>>>> front -
>>>>> and looks adorable.  We have some real oldtimers here - started out
>>>>> feral
>>>>> and are mushes now.....
>>>>> Life with bad teeth must be absolutely horrible and painful  I am
>>>>> always
>>>>> surprised how toothless cats just love dry food!
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
>>>>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 6:31 PM
>>>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG
>>>>>
>>>>> Pretty Boy, a feral who hangs around and who is very loved, was live
>>>>> trapped for neutering.  The vet called me after they put him
>>>>> under...he had shuttered in pain when they put a tube in his mouth.
>>>>> She checked his teeth and they were totally awful.  Most of them were
>>>>> pulled.  The only side effect is that his tongue hangs out a lot of
>>>>> the time...no teeth to help him keep it in...or maybe he is expressing
>>>>> his opinion.  He eats both canned and dry food with the rest of the
>>>>> clan and is so handsome.  He is probably 13-14 years old (per vet) and
>>>>> is a total doll. Like the rest of the clan, he is not touchable most
>>>>> of the time.  He fusses and fumes and catches ground squirrels and
>>>>> others who are stupid enough to come into an area guarded by numerous
>>>>> cats.  Removing his teeth has definitely improved the quality if not
>>>>> quantity of his life.   As far as I know, none of the clan is FeLV+.
>>>>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 6:00 PM, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, in cats (and in humans) the constant infections and abscesses
>>>>>> in a bad
>>>>>> mouth of teeth have all sorts of dire consequences in the rest of
>>>>>> the body's
>>>>>> systems. I have never heard anyone who regretted having some or all
>>>>>> of their
>>>>>> babies' teeth pulled in the interests of clearing up stomatitis, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Diane R.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
>>>>>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 10:00 AM
>>>>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, we have had 3 cases (2 rescues of mine, one a friend's so I
>>>>>> don't know
>>>>>> his testing status, he could be FIV+ though, he was a big male
>>>>>> brought in
>>>>>> from the streets) of full mouth extractions that resulted in a very
>>>>>> sick
>>>>>> kitty soon becoming a 'brand new cat".  One is a year out from the
>>>>>> extraction, the other is 2 years out, both are doing so well!   Both
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> those guys were negative.  My friend's kitty is doing wonderfully,
>>>>>> too, and
>>>>>> his full mouth extraction was done by our humane society low-cost
>>>>>> clinic for
>>>>>> a fraction of what my guys were done for--most low cost clinics
>>>>>> probably
>>>>>> can't do that, though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All 3 of these guys now also eat dry food, by their own liking, I
>>>>>> couldn't
>>>>>> believe it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your cats had stomatitis?  And it helped having all teeth removed?
>>>>>>> The problem with doing this to a cat with immunodeficiencies is
>>>>>>> (ours
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> FIV+, which is better than FeLV+) obviously slightly more risky!  It
>>>>>>> FIV+does
>>>>>>> sound rather drastic, doesn't it?
>>>>>>> We have several old cats without teeth, and they look like they're
>>>>>>> chomping a way at dry food...they just swallow it and love it more
>>>>>>> than canned food at times.
>>>>>>> Natalie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
>>>>>>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 10:18 AM
>>>>>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope the DMG proves to be helpful, but just thought I'd mention
>>>>>>> the 3
>>>>>>> we've had who had full mouth extractions were like new cats
>>>>>>> afterwards, and have done wonderfully ever since.  They were not
>>>>>>> FELV
>>>>>>> cats, though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Has any vet ever suggested using DMG (N, N-DIMETHYLGLYCINE)for
>>>>>>>> FeLV+
>>>>>>> cats?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I AM USING IT ON A FIV+ CAT THAT HAS PAINFUL STOMATITIS IN THE
>>>>>>>> MOUTH, TO THE POINT WHERE HE COULDN'T EAT; FIV/FeLV+ cats often get
>>>>>>>> that condition, and unfortunately, the only suggested and
>>>>>>>> supposedly
>>>>>>>> appropriate thing is to have their teeth pulled by a specialist,
>>>>>>>> with special emphasis on
>>>>>>> cleaning
>>>>>>>> out the areas extremely well.  My vet says that he doesn't like
>>>>>>>> doing it because often it doesn't help at all, so we are trying
>>>>>>>> DMG.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am using the liquid form, but it apparently also comes in
>>>>>>>> different forms.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It has many clinical uses and a variety of applications:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=N%2C+N-
>>>>>>>> DIMETHYLGLYCIN
>>>>>>>> E
>>>>>>>>
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