Thank you

On my way there now.

Kat

On 7/11/11, Beth <create_me_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Go to groups.yahoo.com & search for it. It is for individuals needing help
> with pets. No rescue groups.
>
> katskat1 <katsk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Beth and Natalie
>>
>>Thanks for the ideas.  I had heard of Chipin but not the Animal Wish
>>List. Do I just do a search on Animal Wish List to find it?
>>
>>I didn't want to "beg", if feels weird but if these kids need it I
>>guess I can learn.  My vet is helping me as much as she can but is a
>>small town vet with no receptionist, no nothing.  Her office is in an
>>old house in town, one exam room and a countertop with file cabinets
>>behind it for paperwork.  Surgery is done in a small room in the
>>basement with her mom helping to monitor heart/breathing, etc.  Sounds
>>hookie but she does good work.  And she cares.  Asking the $ be sent
>>directly to her is perfect!  I may give it a shot.
>>
>>Kat
>>
>>On 7/10/11, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>> Use www.chipin.com - very easy and people do contribute to just about
>>> anything!
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
>>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:19 AM
>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG
>>>
>>> Try putting a plea for vet help on Animal Wish List. It's a Yahoo Group.
>>> Have funds go directly to the vet. Most vets will work with u on
>>> payments.
>>>
>>> katskat1 <katsk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Thanks to all I have decided if I can find the $ I am going to take
>>>>Luke to the vet and have some/all of her rotten teeth removed.  She is
>>>>obviously in discomfort and her breath has gotten progressively worse.
>>>> She is ratty looking and apparently has been sickly for a long time
>>>>before I started feeding her as a stray but she still wants to live.
>>>>
>>>>I was very apprehensive about doing this to a cat that stays outside -
>>>>has to - won't come in, fights to get back out and my inside cats are
>>>>ALL negatives.  But she sticks around and I don't have many options.
>>>>
>>>>Now, if only I could successfully medicate her.  She will not eat
>>>>anything, kitten milk replacement, dry/wet food, treats, NOTHING with
>>>>any med of any kind.  Trying to syringe her is like fighting a wind
>>>>storm with lots of claws and then we are both so stressed we are
>>>>breathing hard.  Not good for her.  Or me.  So I am trying to give her
>>>>quality of whatever life she has........
>>>>
>>>>Hopefully yanking rotten, loose teeth will help.
>>>>
>>>>kat
>>>>
>>>>On 7/8/11, MaiMaiPG <maima...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> His tongue does not hang out the side of his mouth nor does he look
>>>>> like he is panting....and he does look adorable.  Sorry to give any
>>>>> other impression.
>>>>> On Jul 8, 2011, at 1:53 AM, Natalie wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The hanging out tongue must be something other than missing teeth.
>>>>>> We have
>>>>>> quite a few cats with no teeth, and their tongues don't hang out the
>>>>>> side of
>>>>>> their mouths, if anything, the tips of the tongue might stick out in
>>>>>> front -
>>>>>> and looks adorable.  We have some real oldtimers here - started out
>>>>>> feral
>>>>>> and are mushes now.....
>>>>>> Life with bad teeth must be absolutely horrible and painful  I am
>>>>>> always
>>>>>> surprised how toothless cats just love dry food!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
>>>>>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 6:31 PM
>>>>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pretty Boy, a feral who hangs around and who is very loved, was live
>>>>>> trapped for neutering.  The vet called me after they put him
>>>>>> under...he had shuttered in pain when they put a tube in his mouth.
>>>>>> She checked his teeth and they were totally awful.  Most of them were
>>>>>> pulled.  The only side effect is that his tongue hangs out a lot of
>>>>>> the time...no teeth to help him keep it in...or maybe he is expressing
>>>>>> his opinion.  He eats both canned and dry food with the rest of the
>>>>>> clan and is so handsome.  He is probably 13-14 years old (per vet) and
>>>>>> is a total doll. Like the rest of the clan, he is not touchable most
>>>>>> of the time.  He fusses and fumes and catches ground squirrels and
>>>>>> others who are stupid enough to come into an area guarded by numerous
>>>>>> cats.  Removing his teeth has definitely improved the quality if not
>>>>>> quantity of his life.   As far as I know, none of the clan is FeLV+.
>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 6:00 PM, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, in cats (and in humans) the constant infections and abscesses
>>>>>>> in a bad
>>>>>>> mouth of teeth have all sorts of dire consequences in the rest of
>>>>>>> the body's
>>>>>>> systems. I have never heard anyone who regretted having some or all
>>>>>>> of their
>>>>>>> babies' teeth pulled in the interests of clearing up stomatitis, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Diane R.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
>>>>>>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 10:00 AM
>>>>>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, we have had 3 cases (2 rescues of mine, one a friend's so I
>>>>>>> don't know
>>>>>>> his testing status, he could be FIV+ though, he was a big male
>>>>>>> brought in
>>>>>>> from the streets) of full mouth extractions that resulted in a very
>>>>>>> sick
>>>>>>> kitty soon becoming a 'brand new cat".  One is a year out from the
>>>>>>> extraction, the other is 2 years out, both are doing so well!   Both
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> those guys were negative.  My friend's kitty is doing wonderfully,
>>>>>>> too, and
>>>>>>> his full mouth extraction was done by our humane society low-cost
>>>>>>> clinic for
>>>>>>> a fraction of what my guys were done for--most low cost clinics
>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>>> can't do that, though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All 3 of these guys now also eat dry food, by their own liking, I
>>>>>>> couldn't
>>>>>>> believe it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your cats had stomatitis?  And it helped having all teeth removed?
>>>>>>>> The problem with doing this to a cat with immunodeficiencies is
>>>>>>>> (ours
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> FIV+, which is better than FeLV+) obviously slightly more risky!  It
>>>>>>>> FIV+does
>>>>>>>> sound rather drastic, doesn't it?
>>>>>>>> We have several old cats without teeth, and they look like they're
>>>>>>>> chomping a way at dry food...they just swallow it and love it more
>>>>>>>> than canned food at times.
>>>>>>>> Natalie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
>>>>>>>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 10:18 AM
>>>>>>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hope the DMG proves to be helpful, but just thought I'd mention
>>>>>>>> the 3
>>>>>>>> we've had who had full mouth extractions were like new cats
>>>>>>>> afterwards, and have done wonderfully ever since.  They were not
>>>>>>>> FELV
>>>>>>>> cats, though.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Has any vet ever suggested using DMG (N, N-DIMETHYLGLYCINE)for
>>>>>>>>> FeLV+
>>>>>>>> cats?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I AM USING IT ON A FIV+ CAT THAT HAS PAINFUL STOMATITIS IN THE
>>>>>>>>> MOUTH, TO THE POINT WHERE HE COULDN'T EAT; FIV/FeLV+ cats often get
>>>>>>>>> that condition, and unfortunately, the only suggested and
>>>>>>>>> supposedly
>>>>>>>>> appropriate thing is to have their teeth pulled by a specialist,
>>>>>>>>> with special emphasis on
>>>>>>>> cleaning
>>>>>>>>> out the areas extremely well.  My vet says that he doesn't like
>>>>>>>>> doing it because often it doesn't help at all, so we are trying
>>>>>>>>> DMG.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am using the liquid form, but it apparently also comes in
>>>>>>>>> different forms.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It has many clinical uses and a variety of applications:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=N%2C+N-
>>>>>>>>> DIMETHYLGLYCIN
>>>>>>>>> E
>>>>>>>>>
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