RE:  NON CAT LOVERS

tHANK you for stating it so well.  I especially agree with the last part!


---- Maureen Olvey <molvey...@hotmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> It's such a strange an unpredictable disease and it seems like the more vets 
> and researchers learn the more they realize that they don't know about it.  
> But, there is definitely light at the end of the tunnel for all cats, even 
> Fletch.  
>  
> What have they figured out about Fletch so far?  Is his white blood cell 
> count down or something?  What's causing his weight loss?  From hearing from 
> others on the list, even though he has FeLV you would treat him for his 
> symptoms as though he didn't have FeLV.  What I mean by that is don't give 
> up.  If a vet says "oh his white blood cell count is down and there's not 
> much that will help because he has FeLV" then ask him what he would do if he 
> didn't have FeLV and to treat him accordingly.  Don't let a vet assume he is 
> going to die everytime he gets sick.  You may need to be more aggressive with 
> his treatment or whatever because of the FeLV but keep fighting.  If later on 
> he has a tumor then treat him for the tumor and don't just say "let him die." 
>  The cat may have a flare up of something or another and then he is fine for 
> the rest of his life.
>  
> Over the years I've been in rescue and in dealing with feral cats I've taken 
> two or three to the vet that had an injury or something and when the vet 
> tested them for FIV they were positive.  Now that's not quite as bad as FeLV 
> but still the vets in every case said that the cat probably wouldn't heal 
> from his injuries because of the FIV and they recommended killing them.  But 
> in every case I said no that I at least wanted to give them an opportunity to 
> heal before putting them down and in every single case the cat recovered.  
> The FIV cat that I have that I mentioned was that way.  He had a bad URI and 
> the vet said he probably wouldn't get over it.  One round of Clavamox later 
> and he was fine.  Nothing to it.  That was about two and a half years ago.  
> He was like 8 years old at the time.  I remember two others that I took in 
> that had wounds and the vets said it was infected and they wouldn't recover 
> because of the FIV.  LIke I said, the vet was wrong in both cases and the 
> cats are now fine.
>  
> FeLV is very dangerous and you can't play with it so always keep a watchful 
> eye over Fletch but it's not an automatic death sentence either.  So if funds 
> permit, find out specifically what's causing Fletch's symptoms and treat it.
>  
> And for people that think less of cat lovers - well, I won't tell you what I 
> normally say to them.  Something to the effect of "I'd rather be a crazy cat 
> (or animal in general) lover than a cold-hearted wretch who didn't appreciate 
> God's Creations!"  Better to love too much than too little so what exactly is 
> wrong with caring about an animal so much that you want to do whatever you 
> can to save it's life.  If God is Love then love comes from God and to love 
> is to honor God and the creation that He loves.  That's the way I say it 
> nicely   ;-)     Usually after that nice speech I tell them to kiss my animal 
> loving butt!
> 
> 
> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
> profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
> unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: marciabmar...@gmail.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:36:51 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
> 
> 
> Maureen
> I can't thank you enough for this email. I know i'm not out of the woods yet, 
> as far as my adults go, but hoping. That seems like a miracle that your fiv 
> cat didn't contract felv! It seems to me, that after hearing from all of you 
> today that there can definitely be a light at the end of the tunnel. I'm so 
> grateful for all of you. And I love being with people who love cats, because 
> sometimes we are just as misunderstood as our feline buddies are!
> Thank you Maureen. 
> Please take care
> Marcia
> 
> Sent from my Aug 22, 2011, at 5:25 PM, Maureen Olvey <molvey...@hotmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Not too long ago I posted that I had a FeLV positive cat mixed with an FIV 
> positive cat.  Obviously, I didn't know the FeLV cat was positive since she 
> tested negative as a kitten.  Anyway, the two lived together for two years 
> until she died and I just tested my old FIV kitty and he's negative.  I've 
> got a houseful of my cats and fosters and I've only tested like 7 of them so 
> far but they've all been negative.  None are vaccinated against FeLV either.  
> It's weird.  I totally expected my FIV kitty to contract it.  I'm glad he 
> didn't of course.
>  
> One vet I talked to said that it's possible the FeLV kitty put the virus into 
> dormancy as a kitten which is why she tested negative and then it reactivated 
> later as an adult.  Maybe that's what happened with Fletch.  I wouldn't have 
> thought a kitten would have a strong enough immune system to put the virus 
> into dormancy but who knows.  But still once it reactivated in my cat I would 
> have thought she could have spread the virus to my other cats.  This vet also 
> said that most vets now days believe that healthy adult cats are pretty much 
> immune to the virus.  Still best to vaccinate your other cats annually but 
> I'm just saying it's not surprising your others are negative.
>  
> I also have a friend who mixes her negatives and positives together.  She 
> just keeps her negatives vaccinated annually.  She even has FIV cats mixed in 
> and keeps them vaccinated too and they have never caught the FeLV virus.  
>  
> Definitely get an IFA test to confirm the ELISA test.  The ELISA test is 
> wrong in about 30% of the cases from what someone else told me.  It's a very 
> sensitive test so if it's not done perfectly it can show a false positive.  
> Course since Fletch is sick it could be correct but you should still confirm 
> with the IFA test.  If the IFA test is negative then it means the virus 
> hasn't gotten into his white blood cells and t-cell lymphocytes (I have no 
> idea what that is, I just read it) so he still has a chance of exterminating 
> the virus completely or putting it into dormancy.  So if his IFA test is 
> negative then do a retest in a couple months to see if it has gotten that far 
> or not.  You need two test with the same results to confirm FeLV status.
>  
> If after doing the IFA, Fletch shows positive definitely look into immune 
> system stimulants like interferon and immunoreglin.  I don't know much about 
> them but others on the list do and your vet should know.  Need to keep Fletch 
> around for a long long time.  Since he's sick right now I'd go ahead and get 
> him going on this kind of stuff.
>  
>  
> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
> profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
> unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
>  
> 
> 
> 
>                                         


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