Super b complex by twinlab. I ordered from amazon. U can get a twinpack. Gmc 
also makes liquid b's with more b12 but not as wide a spectrum of the different 
b's. I just give the b12 separate. Cat dose is 1/10 of human dose.

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On Sep 3, 2011, at 3:36 PM, "Gloria B. Lane" <gbl...@aristotle.net> wrote:

> Which liquid human B's?  I might like to get some - like from the drug store, 
> etc?
> 
> Gloria
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 3, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Marcia wrote:
> 
>> Gloria
>> I got on a CRf site that I've used and they recommended human b's. So I am 
>> giving him liquid b complex and also the methyl b 12 since the bcomplex 
>> isn't high in b12. I also ordered wellness canned food. He has eaten twice 
>> today. I mix it with water for fluids. But I do have to stick it under his 
>> nose and hold the bowl for him (and I don't mind). (-:
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 3, 2011, at 1:32 PM, "Gloria B. Lane" <gbl...@aristotle.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hmmm.  Think blood work would add some insight into things like potassium, 
>>> blood counts.  Can see if anemic, etc. Good that his gums are pink.  Not 
>>> sure about the baby aspirin, maybe she's assuming pain?
>>> 
>>> How bout some Pettinic or something like that with b vitamins possibly?
>>> 
>>> Gloria
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 3, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Marcia Baronda wrote:
>>> 
>>>> She did not do lab work. She said it won't make any difference in the way 
>>>> he will be treated. She had not heard of the ltci but did seem interested 
>>>> after reading through some of the data. She immediately got on the 
>>>> computer to look it up. My a ppt was at the end of the day so she said she 
>>>> wasn't to sure she could even talk to them and may not be able to until 
>>>> Tuesday because of the holiday. I think that they think he is too far 
>>>> gone. But how could it be that Thursday morning he comes up the stairs, 
>>>> rubs all over my legs, purrs and now he can't walk without stumbling all 
>>>> over? That makes no sense to me. Could it be that he is low on potassium? 
>>>> But how, when he had fluids? Maybe he has a brain tumor or something. He 
>>>> just peed on my couch twice. Just laid there and did it. Not like him. She 
>>>> also said he is not anemic. His nose is very pink and his gums are pink. 
>>>> Well that's all I know. Oh, I did just give him 500 mcg of methyl B12. It 
>>>> won't hurt!  She also told me to give him 81 mg of baby aspirin 2X a week.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks you guys for listening(-:
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 3, 2011, at 10:02 AM, "Gloria B. Lane" <gbl...@aristotle.net> wrote:
>>>>> I was thinking about that.  I haven't been following all of this, but 
>>>>> with anemia, that's what I did with Mittens (a long time ago).  Some vets 
>>>>> just aren't really willing or able to try and help a sick FELV cat - 
>>>>> though they might be trainable :) You can of course give him sub-q fluids 
>>>>> at home.
>>>>> 
>>>>> My vet said that we could do a couple of blood transfusions, ,but that no 
>>>>> more than that.  Not sure why - for biological reasons or practical 
>>>>> reasons.  but a transfusion might pump him up till he could get LTCI or 
>>>>> interferon or something.  Course as I recall, interferon alpha is more of 
>>>>> a preventative than a treatment. Not sure about interferon omega.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gloria
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 3, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Lynda Wilson wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marcia,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Has Fletch had a blood transfusion yet? I've heard this helps 
>>>>>> tremendously. Did your vet tell you she will order the LCTI? Did she do 
>>>>>> any lab work to find out what his blood cell counts are?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> He may have not cried all the way there because he is too weak.  I'm so 
>>>>>> sorry he is such bad shape!!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In my opinion, just go with your heart. I know you don't want the poor 
>>>>>> little guy to suffer.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hugs~
>>>>>> Lynda
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcia Baronda" 
>>>>>> <marciabmar...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 9:17 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi everyone
>>>>>>> I hope everyone and all kitties are happy and doing well.  I'm really 
>>>>>>> afraid that I am going to lose Fletch. I took him back to the vet 
>>>>>>> yesterday for sub q fluids. He had a temp of over 105. Bonier than what 
>>>>>>> he was last week. She gave him a long lasting penicillin shot. She did 
>>>>>>> mention that most people don't mess with it, they euthanize. He didn't 
>>>>>>> cry all the way there (25 miles) which is highly unusual. I gave her 
>>>>>>> the info on LCTI and she was on the computer looking it up when I left. 
>>>>>>> I asked just HOW sick is fletch and she said VERY. When I got him home 
>>>>>>> he was extremely off balance and couldn't navigate. He wasn't like that 
>>>>>>> the day before. His quality of life sucks! It's hard for me to tell if 
>>>>>>> this is permanent or just a passing bacterial infection. Opinions from 
>>>>>>> the experts? (all of you)(-:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks so much
>>>>>>> Marcia
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2011, at 9:13 PM, katskat1 <katsk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Is each vial an individual dose or are there multiple doses per vial?
>>>>>>>> I am afraid this is way too expensive for my unemployment check but
>>>>>>>> want the info if I have to try to find a way to obtain it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> Kat
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 8/31/11, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO <hideyo.yamam...@msn.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi, I just ordered 10 vials for $420 plus shipping through a 
>>>>>>>>> distributor in
>>>>>>>>> Texas, let me know if someone needs more infor.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> From: drsiebl...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:58:05 -0500
>>>>>>>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Definitely try to get some LTCI.  We put dexter on it for the last 
>>>>>>>>> few weeks
>>>>>>>>> of his life and I feel that if we had started sooner, he might have 
>>>>>>>>> lived a
>>>>>>>>> bit longer.  LTCI is only available from the manufacturer: 
>>>>>>>>> www.tcyte.com -
>>>>>>>>> if your vet will order it, they will overnight the medication to the 
>>>>>>>>> vet.  I
>>>>>>>>> was paying roughly $60 per dose at 1 dose every three days. It is 
>>>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>>> to be more aggressive with the treatment and administer it daily. The 
>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>> up-side to this medication is that it is administered via 
>>>>>>>>> sub-cutaneous
>>>>>>>>> injection - immunoregulin, on the the other hand, is via IV 
>>>>>>>>> injection. The
>>>>>>>>> IV injection will stress the kitty out about 1000 times more than a 
>>>>>>>>> sub-q
>>>>>>>>> injection. Immunoregulin also made Dexter spike a fever after each 
>>>>>>>>> dose -
>>>>>>>>> something he didn't need and quickly wore him out.  Tcyte can also 
>>>>>>>>> slow the
>>>>>>>>> inevitable appearance of dreaded lymphatic cancer.  Many benefits 
>>>>>>>>> with this
>>>>>>>>> stuff.  Please call the tcyte folks tomorrow - they are very helpful 
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> will give you all the info you need.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -- My iPhone told me to send this message. --
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 30, 2011, at 10:43 PM, Marcia Baronda <marciabmar...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone
>>>>>>>>> I really need some help.
>>>>>>>>> fletch is really not feeling well. His fever is back and he hides in 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> basement. Two times now he has missed doses of his antibiotic because 
>>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>>> cannot find him anywhere. It seems like I can feel more of his 
>>>>>>>>> backbone and
>>>>>>>>> his hipbones even though he continues to eat, but not as well. I 
>>>>>>>>> don't know
>>>>>>>>> what to think. I feel so bad for him, he seems miserable.He acts like 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> base of his ear hurts when I touch him but the vet said he had never 
>>>>>>>>> seen
>>>>>>>>> such clean ears. I think I need a different antibiotic, this amoxi 
>>>>>>>>> isn't
>>>>>>>>> working, or doees it take longer to work? There seemed to be a teensy 
>>>>>>>>> bit of
>>>>>>>>> improvement, but now I feel like he looks as bad as the day I took 
>>>>>>>>> him to
>>>>>>>>> the vet. What about this LTCI. Is this something I should discuss 
>>>>>>>>> with my
>>>>>>>>> vet? Is it better than immunoregulin. I just feel like my poor little 
>>>>>>>>> cat is
>>>>>>>>> wasting away here fast and there's something else I can be doing for 
>>>>>>>>> him
>>>>>>>>> What do I do????
>>>>>>>>> Natalie, are you and all of your babies OK?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much
>>>>>>>>> Marcia
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 3:42 PM, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO 
>>>>>>>>> <hideyo.yamam...@msn.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Where do you guys get LTCI?
>>>>>>>>> the distributor that my vet uses now only carry 3 vials set - they 
>>>>>>>>> used to
>>>>>>>>> have 10 vials as it is much chepaer that way- could you tell me where 
>>>>>>>>> is the
>>>>>>>>> best place to get LTCI?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> hideyo
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Marcia Baronda
>>>>>>>>> Baronda Supplies & Service, Inc.
>>>>>>>>> 1550 S 2700 Rd.
>>>>>>>>> Herington, Kansas 67449
>>>>>>>>> Phone: 785-466-2501
>>>>>>>>> Cell:    785-230-6499
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> " I wish to address ethics as it applies to our companion animals. As 
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> veterinarian, I am an advocate for the rights of these wonderful 
>>>>>>>>> beings who
>>>>>>>>> inhabit the earth and our homes, sharing this journey with us. It is 
>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>> conviction that these animals,and all plants and animals, 
>>>>>>>>> domesticated or
>>>>>>>>> wild, have inherent rights that are separate from their ability to 
>>>>>>>>> benefit
>>>>>>>>> humans. They have the same right to exist as we do."  Don Hamilton DVM
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
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