Super b complex by twinlab. I ordered from amazon. U can get a twinpack. Gmc also makes liquid b's with more b12 but not as wide a spectrum of the different b's. I just give the b12 separate. Cat dose is 1/10 of human dose.
Sent from my iPhone On Sep 3, 2011, at 3:36 PM, "Gloria B. Lane" <[email protected]> wrote: > Which liquid human B's? I might like to get some - like from the drug store, > etc? > > Gloria > > > > On Sep 3, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Marcia wrote: > >> Gloria >> I got on a CRf site that I've used and they recommended human b's. So I am >> giving him liquid b complex and also the methyl b 12 since the bcomplex >> isn't high in b12. I also ordered wellness canned food. He has eaten twice >> today. I mix it with water for fluids. But I do have to stick it under his >> nose and hold the bowl for him (and I don't mind). (-: >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Sep 3, 2011, at 1:32 PM, "Gloria B. Lane" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hmmm. Think blood work would add some insight into things like potassium, >>> blood counts. Can see if anemic, etc. Good that his gums are pink. Not >>> sure about the baby aspirin, maybe she's assuming pain? >>> >>> How bout some Pettinic or something like that with b vitamins possibly? >>> >>> Gloria >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sep 3, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Marcia Baronda wrote: >>> >>>> She did not do lab work. She said it won't make any difference in the way >>>> he will be treated. She had not heard of the ltci but did seem interested >>>> after reading through some of the data. She immediately got on the >>>> computer to look it up. My a ppt was at the end of the day so she said she >>>> wasn't to sure she could even talk to them and may not be able to until >>>> Tuesday because of the holiday. I think that they think he is too far >>>> gone. But how could it be that Thursday morning he comes up the stairs, >>>> rubs all over my legs, purrs and now he can't walk without stumbling all >>>> over? That makes no sense to me. Could it be that he is low on potassium? >>>> But how, when he had fluids? Maybe he has a brain tumor or something. He >>>> just peed on my couch twice. Just laid there and did it. Not like him. She >>>> also said he is not anemic. His nose is very pink and his gums are pink. >>>> Well that's all I know. Oh, I did just give him 500 mcg of methyl B12. It >>>> won't hurt! She also told me to give him 81 mg of baby aspirin 2X a week. >>>> >>>> Thanks you guys for listening(-: >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> On Sep 3, 2011, at 10:02 AM, "Gloria B. Lane" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> I was thinking about that. I haven't been following all of this, but >>>>> with anemia, that's what I did with Mittens (a long time ago). Some vets >>>>> just aren't really willing or able to try and help a sick FELV cat - >>>>> though they might be trainable :) You can of course give him sub-q fluids >>>>> at home. >>>>> >>>>> My vet said that we could do a couple of blood transfusions, ,but that no >>>>> more than that. Not sure why - for biological reasons or practical >>>>> reasons. but a transfusion might pump him up till he could get LTCI or >>>>> interferon or something. Course as I recall, interferon alpha is more of >>>>> a preventative than a treatment. Not sure about interferon omega. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Gloria >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 3, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Lynda Wilson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Marcia, >>>>>> >>>>>> Has Fletch had a blood transfusion yet? I've heard this helps >>>>>> tremendously. Did your vet tell you she will order the LCTI? Did she do >>>>>> any lab work to find out what his blood cell counts are? >>>>>> >>>>>> He may have not cried all the way there because he is too weak. I'm so >>>>>> sorry he is such bad shape!! >>>>>> >>>>>> In my opinion, just go with your heart. I know you don't want the poor >>>>>> little guy to suffer. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hugs~ >>>>>> Lynda >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcia Baronda" >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 9:17 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi everyone >>>>>>> I hope everyone and all kitties are happy and doing well. I'm really >>>>>>> afraid that I am going to lose Fletch. I took him back to the vet >>>>>>> yesterday for sub q fluids. He had a temp of over 105. Bonier than what >>>>>>> he was last week. She gave him a long lasting penicillin shot. She did >>>>>>> mention that most people don't mess with it, they euthanize. He didn't >>>>>>> cry all the way there (25 miles) which is highly unusual. I gave her >>>>>>> the info on LCTI and she was on the computer looking it up when I left. >>>>>>> I asked just HOW sick is fletch and she said VERY. When I got him home >>>>>>> he was extremely off balance and couldn't navigate. He wasn't like that >>>>>>> the day before. His quality of life sucks! It's hard for me to tell if >>>>>>> this is permanent or just a passing bacterial infection. Opinions from >>>>>>> the experts? (all of you)(-: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks so much >>>>>>> Marcia >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2011, at 9:13 PM, katskat1 <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is each vial an individual dose or are there multiple doses per vial? >>>>>>>> I am afraid this is way too expensive for my unemployment check but >>>>>>>> want the info if I have to try to find a way to obtain it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> Kat >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 8/31/11, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, I just ordered 10 vials for $420 plus shipping through a >>>>>>>>> distributor in >>>>>>>>> Texas, let me know if someone needs more infor. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:58:05 -0500 >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Definitely try to get some LTCI. We put dexter on it for the last >>>>>>>>> few weeks >>>>>>>>> of his life and I feel that if we had started sooner, he might have >>>>>>>>> lived a >>>>>>>>> bit longer. LTCI is only available from the manufacturer: >>>>>>>>> www.tcyte.com - >>>>>>>>> if your vet will order it, they will overnight the medication to the >>>>>>>>> vet. I >>>>>>>>> was paying roughly $60 per dose at 1 dose every three days. It is >>>>>>>>> possible >>>>>>>>> to be more aggressive with the treatment and administer it daily. The >>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>> up-side to this medication is that it is administered via >>>>>>>>> sub-cutaneous >>>>>>>>> injection - immunoregulin, on the the other hand, is via IV >>>>>>>>> injection. The >>>>>>>>> IV injection will stress the kitty out about 1000 times more than a >>>>>>>>> sub-q >>>>>>>>> injection. Immunoregulin also made Dexter spike a fever after each >>>>>>>>> dose - >>>>>>>>> something he didn't need and quickly wore him out. Tcyte can also >>>>>>>>> slow the >>>>>>>>> inevitable appearance of dreaded lymphatic cancer. Many benefits >>>>>>>>> with this >>>>>>>>> stuff. Please call the tcyte folks tomorrow - they are very helpful >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> will give you all the info you need. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- My iPhone told me to send this message. -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 30, 2011, at 10:43 PM, Marcia Baronda <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi everyone >>>>>>>>> I really need some help. >>>>>>>>> fletch is really not feeling well. His fever is back and he hides in >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> basement. Two times now he has missed doses of his antibiotic because >>>>>>>>> i >>>>>>>>> cannot find him anywhere. It seems like I can feel more of his >>>>>>>>> backbone and >>>>>>>>> his hipbones even though he continues to eat, but not as well. I >>>>>>>>> don't know >>>>>>>>> what to think. I feel so bad for him, he seems miserable.He acts like >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> base of his ear hurts when I touch him but the vet said he had never >>>>>>>>> seen >>>>>>>>> such clean ears. I think I need a different antibiotic, this amoxi >>>>>>>>> isn't >>>>>>>>> working, or doees it take longer to work? There seemed to be a teensy >>>>>>>>> bit of >>>>>>>>> improvement, but now I feel like he looks as bad as the day I took >>>>>>>>> him to >>>>>>>>> the vet. What about this LTCI. Is this something I should discuss >>>>>>>>> with my >>>>>>>>> vet? Is it better than immunoregulin. I just feel like my poor little >>>>>>>>> cat is >>>>>>>>> wasting away here fast and there's something else I can be doing for >>>>>>>>> him >>>>>>>>> What do I do???? >>>>>>>>> Natalie, are you and all of your babies OK? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks so much >>>>>>>>> Marcia >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 3:42 PM, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Where do you guys get LTCI? >>>>>>>>> the distributor that my vet uses now only carry 3 vials set - they >>>>>>>>> used to >>>>>>>>> have 10 vials as it is much chepaer that way- could you tell me where >>>>>>>>> is the >>>>>>>>> best place to get LTCI? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> hideyo >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Marcia Baronda >>>>>>>>> Baronda Supplies & Service, Inc. >>>>>>>>> 1550 S 2700 Rd. >>>>>>>>> Herington, Kansas 67449 >>>>>>>>> Phone: 785-466-2501 >>>>>>>>> Cell: 785-230-6499 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> " I wish to address ethics as it applies to our companion animals. 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