OK Thanks - yup I like Twinlab.

Gloria



On Sep 3, 2011, at 4:17 PM, Marcia wrote:

Super b complex by twinlab. I ordered from amazon. U can get a twinpack. Gmc also makes liquid b's with more b12 but not as wide a spectrum of the different b's. I just give the b12 separate. Cat dose is 1/10 of human dose.

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On Sep 3, 2011, at 3:36 PM, "Gloria B. Lane" <gbl...@aristotle.net> wrote:

Which liquid human B's? I might like to get some - like from the drug store, etc?

Gloria



On Sep 3, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Marcia wrote:

Gloria
I got on a CRf site that I've used and they recommended human b's. So I am giving him liquid b complex and also the methyl b 12 since the bcomplex isn't high in b12. I also ordered wellness canned food. He has eaten twice today. I mix it with water for fluids. But I do have to stick it under his nose and hold the bowl for him (and I don't mind). (-:

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On Sep 3, 2011, at 1:32 PM, "Gloria B. Lane" <gbl...@aristotle.net> wrote:

Hmmm. Think blood work would add some insight into things like potassium, blood counts. Can see if anemic, etc. Good that his gums are pink. Not sure about the baby aspirin, maybe she's assuming pain?

How bout some Pettinic or something like that with b vitamins possibly?

Gloria



On Sep 3, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Marcia Baronda wrote:

She did not do lab work. She said it won't make any difference in the way he will be treated. She had not heard of the ltci but did seem interested after reading through some of the data. She immediately got on the computer to look it up. My a ppt was at the end of the day so she said she wasn't to sure she could even talk to them and may not be able to until Tuesday because of the holiday. I think that they think he is too far gone. But how could it be that Thursday morning he comes up the stairs, rubs all over my legs, purrs and now he can't walk without stumbling all over? That makes no sense to me. Could it be that he is low on potassium? But how, when he had fluids? Maybe he has a brain tumor or something. He just peed on my couch twice. Just laid there and did it. Not like him. She also said he is not anemic. His nose is very pink and his gums are pink. Well that's all I know. Oh, I did just give him 500 mcg of methyl B12. It won't hurt! She also told me to give him 81 mg of baby aspirin 2X a week.

Thanks you guys for listening(-:

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On Sep 3, 2011, at 10:02 AM, "Gloria B. Lane" <gbl...@aristotle.net > wrote:
I was thinking about that. I haven't been following all of this, but with anemia, that's what I did with Mittens (a long time ago). Some vets just aren't really willing or able to try and help a sick FELV cat - though they might be trainable :) You can of course give him sub-q fluids at home.

My vet said that we could do a couple of blood transfusions, ,but that no more than that. Not sure why - for biological reasons or practical reasons. but a transfusion might pump him up till he could get LTCI or interferon or something. Course as I recall, interferon alpha is more of a preventative than a treatment. Not sure about interferon omega.



Gloria




On Sep 3, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Lynda Wilson wrote:

Marcia,

Has Fletch had a blood transfusion yet? I've heard this helps tremendously. Did your vet tell you she will order the LCTI? Did she do any lab work to find out what his blood cell counts are?

He may have not cried all the way there because he is too weak. I'm so sorry he is such bad shape!!

In my opinion, just go with your heart. I know you don't want the poor little guy to suffer.

Hugs~
Lynda
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Hi everyone
I hope everyone and all kitties are happy and doing well. I'm really afraid that I am going to lose Fletch. I took him back to the vet yesterday for sub q fluids. He had a temp of over 105. Bonier than what he was last week. She gave him a long lasting penicillin shot. She did mention that most people don't mess with it, they euthanize. He didn't cry all the way there (25 miles) which is highly unusual. I gave her the info on LCTI and she was on the computer looking it up when I left. I asked just HOW sick is fletch and she said VERY. When I got him home he was extremely off balance and couldn't navigate. He wasn't like that the day before. His quality of life sucks! It's hard for me to tell if this is permanent or just a passing bacterial infection. Opinions from the experts? (all of you)(-:

Thanks so much
Marcia

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On Aug 31, 2011, at 9:13 PM, katskat1 <katsk...@gmail.com> wrote:

Is each vial an individual dose or are there multiple doses per vial? I am afraid this is way too expensive for my unemployment check but
want the info if I have to try to find a way to obtain it.

Thanks
Kat

On 8/31/11, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO <hideyo.yamam...@msn.com> wrote:

Hi, I just ordered 10 vials for $420 plus shipping through a distributor in
Texas, let me know if someone needs more infor.




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Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:58:05 -0500
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI


Definitely try to get some LTCI. We put dexter on it for the last few weeks of his life and I feel that if we had started sooner, he might have lived a bit longer. LTCI is only available from the manufacturer: www.tcyte.com - if your vet will order it, they will overnight the medication to the vet. I was paying roughly $60 per dose at 1 dose every three days. It is possible to be more aggressive with the treatment and administer it daily. The other up-side to this medication is that it is administered via sub-cutaneous injection - immunoregulin, on the the other hand, is via IV injection. The IV injection will stress the kitty out about 1000 times more than a sub-q injection. Immunoregulin also made Dexter spike a fever after each dose - something he didn't need and quickly wore him out. Tcyte can also slow the inevitable appearance of dreaded lymphatic cancer. Many benefits with this stuff. Please call the tcyte folks tomorrow - they are very helpful and
will give you all the info you need.

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Hi everyone
I really need some help.
fletch is really not feeling well. His fever is back and he hides in the basement. Two times now he has missed doses of his antibiotic because i cannot find him anywhere. It seems like I can feel more of his backbone and his hipbones even though he continues to eat, but not as well. I don't know what to think. I feel so bad for him, he seems miserable.He acts like the base of his ear hurts when I touch him but the vet said he had never seen such clean ears. I think I need a different antibiotic, this amoxi isn't working, or doees it take longer to work? There seemed to be a teensy bit of improvement, but now I feel like he looks as bad as the day I took him to the vet. What about this LTCI. Is this something I should discuss with my vet? Is it better than immunoregulin. I just feel like my poor little cat is wasting away here fast and there's something else I can be doing for him
What do I do????
Natalie, are you and all of your babies OK?

Thanks so much
Marcia


On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 3:42 PM, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO <hideyo.yamam...@msn.com >
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Where do you guys get LTCI?
the distributor that my vet uses now only carry 3 vials set - they used to have 10 vials as it is much chepaer that way- could you tell me where is the
best place to get LTCI?

hideyo

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