Hi, everyone - I am back! Irene really socked it to us - no power from Sunday 3 AM until Thursday afternoon and cable only yesterday afternoon...and without cable, we had no telephones! Now I'm going through a week's worth of mail, which is quite a daunting enterprise! I hope that everyone else who was in Irene's path is OK! Natalie
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 5:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI OK Thanks - yup I like Twinlab. Gloria On Sep 3, 2011, at 4:17 PM, Marcia wrote: > Super b complex by twinlab. I ordered from amazon. U can get a > twinpack. Gmc also makes liquid b's with more b12 but not as wide a > spectrum of the different b's. I just give the b12 separate. Cat > dose is 1/10 of human dose. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 3, 2011, at 3:36 PM, "Gloria B. Lane" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Which liquid human B's? I might like to get some - like from the >> drug store, etc? >> >> Gloria >> >> >> >> On Sep 3, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Marcia wrote: >> >>> Gloria >>> I got on a CRf site that I've used and they recommended human b's. >>> So I am giving him liquid b complex and also the methyl b 12 since >>> the bcomplex isn't high in b12. I also ordered wellness canned >>> food. He has eaten twice today. I mix it with water for fluids. >>> But I do have to stick it under his nose and hold the bowl for him >>> (and I don't mind). (-: >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Sep 3, 2011, at 1:32 PM, "Gloria B. Lane" >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hmmm. Think blood work would add some insight into things like >>>> potassium, blood counts. Can see if anemic, etc. Good that his >>>> gums are pink. Not sure about the baby aspirin, maybe she's >>>> assuming pain? >>>> >>>> How bout some Pettinic or something like that with b vitamins >>>> possibly? >>>> >>>> Gloria >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 3, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Marcia Baronda wrote: >>>> >>>>> She did not do lab work. She said it won't make any difference >>>>> in the way he will be treated. She had not heard of the ltci but >>>>> did seem interested after reading through some of the data. She >>>>> immediately got on the computer to look it up. My a ppt was at >>>>> the end of the day so she said she wasn't to sure she could even >>>>> talk to them and may not be able to until Tuesday because of the >>>>> holiday. I think that they think he is too far gone. But how >>>>> could it be that Thursday morning he comes up the stairs, rubs >>>>> all over my legs, purrs and now he can't walk without stumbling >>>>> all over? That makes no sense to me. Could it be that he is low >>>>> on potassium? But how, when he had fluids? Maybe he has a brain >>>>> tumor or something. He just peed on my couch twice. Just laid >>>>> there and did it. Not like him. She also said he is not anemic. >>>>> His nose is very pink and his gums are pink. Well that's all I >>>>> know. Oh, I did just give him 500 mcg of methyl B12. It won't >>>>> hurt! She also told me to give him 81 mg of baby aspirin 2X a >>>>> week. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks you guys for listening(-: >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 3, 2011, at 10:02 AM, "Gloria B. Lane" <[email protected] >>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> I was thinking about that. I haven't been following all of >>>>>> this, but with anemia, that's what I did with Mittens (a long >>>>>> time ago). Some vets just aren't really willing or able to try >>>>>> and help a sick FELV cat - though they might be trainable :) >>>>>> You can of course give him sub-q fluids at home. >>>>>> >>>>>> My vet said that we could do a couple of blood >>>>>> transfusions, ,but that no more than that. Not sure why - for >>>>>> biological reasons or practical reasons. but a transfusion >>>>>> might pump him up till he could get LTCI or interferon or >>>>>> something. Course as I recall, interferon alpha is more of a >>>>>> preventative than a treatment. Not sure about interferon omega. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Gloria >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 3, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Lynda Wilson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Marcia, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Has Fletch had a blood transfusion yet? I've heard this helps >>>>>>> tremendously. Did your vet tell you she will order the LCTI? >>>>>>> Did she do any lab work to find out what his blood cell counts >>>>>>> are? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> He may have not cried all the way there because he is too >>>>>>> weak. I'm so sorry he is such bad shape!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In my opinion, just go with your heart. I know you don't want >>>>>>> the poor little guy to suffer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hugs~ >>>>>>> Lynda >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcia Baronda" <[email protected] >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 9:17 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi everyone >>>>>>>> I hope everyone and all kitties are happy and doing well. >>>>>>>> I'm really afraid that I am going to lose Fletch. I took him >>>>>>>> back to the vet yesterday for sub q fluids. He had a temp of >>>>>>>> over 105. Bonier than what he was last week. She gave him a >>>>>>>> long lasting penicillin shot. She did mention that most >>>>>>>> people don't mess with it, they euthanize. He didn't cry all >>>>>>>> the way there (25 miles) which is highly unusual. I gave her >>>>>>>> the info on LCTI and she was on the computer looking it up >>>>>>>> when I left. I asked just HOW sick is fletch and she said >>>>>>>> VERY. When I got him home he was extremely off balance and >>>>>>>> couldn't navigate. He wasn't like that the day before. His >>>>>>>> quality of life sucks! It's hard for me to tell if this is >>>>>>>> permanent or just a passing bacterial infection. Opinions >>>>>>>> from the experts? (all of you)(-: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks so much >>>>>>>> Marcia >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2011, at 9:13 PM, katskat1 <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is each vial an individual dose or are there multiple doses >>>>>>>>> per vial? >>>>>>>>> I am afraid this is way too expensive for my unemployment >>>>>>>>> check but >>>>>>>>> want the info if I have to try to find a way to obtain it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>> Kat >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 8/31/11, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, I just ordered 10 vials for $420 plus shipping through >>>>>>>>>> a distributor in >>>>>>>>>> Texas, let me know if someone needs more infor. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:58:05 -0500 >>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Definitely try to get some LTCI. We put dexter on it for >>>>>>>>>> the last few weeks >>>>>>>>>> of his life and I feel that if we had started sooner, he >>>>>>>>>> might have lived a >>>>>>>>>> bit longer. LTCI is only available from the manufacturer: www.tcyte.com >>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>> if your vet will order it, they will overnight the >>>>>>>>>> medication to the vet. I >>>>>>>>>> was paying roughly $60 per dose at 1 dose every three days. >>>>>>>>>> It is possible >>>>>>>>>> to be more aggressive with the treatment and administer it >>>>>>>>>> daily. The other >>>>>>>>>> up-side to this medication is that it is administered via >>>>>>>>>> sub-cutaneous >>>>>>>>>> injection - immunoregulin, on the the other hand, is via IV >>>>>>>>>> injection. The >>>>>>>>>> IV injection will stress the kitty out about 1000 times >>>>>>>>>> more than a sub-q >>>>>>>>>> injection. Immunoregulin also made Dexter spike a fever >>>>>>>>>> after each dose - >>>>>>>>>> something he didn't need and quickly wore him out. Tcyte >>>>>>>>>> can also slow the >>>>>>>>>> inevitable appearance of dreaded lymphatic cancer. Many >>>>>>>>>> benefits with this >>>>>>>>>> stuff. Please call the tcyte folks tomorrow - they are >>>>>>>>>> very helpful and >>>>>>>>>> will give you all the info you need. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- My iPhone told me to send this message. -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Aug 30, 2011, at 10:43 PM, Marcia Baronda <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone >>>>>>>>>> I really need some help. >>>>>>>>>> fletch is really not feeling well. His fever is back and he >>>>>>>>>> hides in the >>>>>>>>>> basement. Two times now he has missed doses of his >>>>>>>>>> antibiotic because i >>>>>>>>>> cannot find him anywhere. It seems like I can feel more of >>>>>>>>>> his backbone and >>>>>>>>>> his hipbones even though he continues to eat, but not as >>>>>>>>>> well. I don't know >>>>>>>>>> what to think. I feel so bad for him, he seems miserable.He >>>>>>>>>> acts like the >>>>>>>>>> base of his ear hurts when I touch him but the vet said he >>>>>>>>>> had never seen >>>>>>>>>> such clean ears. I think I need a different antibiotic, >>>>>>>>>> this amoxi isn't >>>>>>>>>> working, or doees it take longer to work? There seemed to >>>>>>>>>> be a teensy bit of >>>>>>>>>> improvement, but now I feel like he looks as bad as the day >>>>>>>>>> I took him to >>>>>>>>>> the vet. What about this LTCI. Is this something I should >>>>>>>>>> discuss with my >>>>>>>>>> vet? Is it better than immunoregulin. I just feel like my >>>>>>>>>> poor little cat is >>>>>>>>>> wasting away here fast and there's something else I can be >>>>>>>>>> doing for him >>>>>>>>>> What do I do???? >>>>>>>>>> Natalie, are you and all of your babies OK? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much >>>>>>>>>> Marcia >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 3:42 PM, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Where do you guys get LTCI? >>>>>>>>>> the distributor that my vet uses now only carry 3 vials set >>>>>>>>>> - they used to >>>>>>>>>> have 10 vials as it is much chepaer that way- could you >>>>>>>>>> tell me where is the >>>>>>>>>> best place to get LTCI? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> hideyo >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Marcia Baronda >>>>>>>>>> Baronda Supplies & Service, Inc. >>>>>>>>>> 1550 S 2700 Rd. >>>>>>>>>> Herington, Kansas 67449 >>>>>>>>>> Phone: 785-466-2501 >>>>>>>>>> Cell: 785-230-6499 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> " I wish to address ethics as it applies to our companion >>>>>>>>>> animals. 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