Hi guys! Just wanted to let you know that the aspirin really helped! It took his fever down and he actually walked from the litter box and got on the couch by himself, I have e also been feeding him some canned food with water mixed in about every two hours. He never turns it down. His coat looks 100% better today too. I know this can change but I'm happy that he is feeling better today. Maybe this little boost will be enough to get him going on the right track. I wish I could send you a picture of what he looked like yesterday but don't know if it's ok to do that. Thanks for being here.(-:
Take care everyone Marcia Sent from my iPad On Sep 4, 2011, at 9:39 AM, "Lynda Wilson" <[email protected]> wrote: > Oh Natalie, I'm glad that you are safe and that you are back "with us." I've > been wondering about you. > > I hope everything can back as close to normal as possible, and soon! > > Lynda > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 5:09 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI > > >> Hi, everyone - I am back! Irene really socked it to us - no power from >> Sunday 3 AM until Thursday afternoon and cable only yesterday >> afternoon...and without cable, we had no telephones! Now I'm going through >> a week's worth of mail, which is quite a daunting enterprise! >> I hope that everyone else who was in Irene's path is OK! >> Natalie >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane >> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 5:30 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI >> >> OK Thanks - yup I like Twinlab. >> >> Gloria >> >> >> >> On Sep 3, 2011, at 4:17 PM, Marcia wrote: >> >>> Super b complex by twinlab. I ordered from amazon. U can get a >>> twinpack. Gmc also makes liquid b's with more b12 but not as wide a >>> spectrum of the different b's. I just give the b12 separate. Cat >>> dose is 1/10 of human dose. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Sep 3, 2011, at 3:36 PM, "Gloria B. Lane" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Which liquid human B's? I might like to get some - like from the >>>> drug store, etc? >>>> >>>> Gloria >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 3, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Marcia wrote: >>>> >>>>> Gloria >>>>> I got on a CRf site that I've used and they recommended human b's. >>>>> So I am giving him liquid b complex and also the methyl b 12 since >>>>> the bcomplex isn't high in b12. I also ordered wellness canned >>>>> food. He has eaten twice today. I mix it with water for fluids. >>>>> But I do have to stick it under his nose and hold the bowl for him >>>>> (and I don't mind). (-: >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 3, 2011, at 1:32 PM, "Gloria B. Lane" >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hmmm. Think blood work would add some insight into things like >>>>>> potassium, blood counts. Can see if anemic, etc. Good that his >>>>>> gums are pink. Not sure about the baby aspirin, maybe she's >>>>>> assuming pain? >>>>>> >>>>>> How bout some Pettinic or something like that with b vitamins >>>>>> possibly? >>>>>> >>>>>> Gloria >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 3, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Marcia Baronda wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> She did not do lab work. She said it won't make any difference >>>>>>> in the way he will be treated. She had not heard of the ltci but >>>>>>> did seem interested after reading through some of the data. She >>>>>>> immediately got on the computer to look it up. My a ppt was at >>>>>>> the end of the day so she said she wasn't to sure she could even >>>>>>> talk to them and may not be able to until Tuesday because of the >>>>>>> holiday. I think that they think he is too far gone. But how >>>>>>> could it be that Thursday morning he comes up the stairs, rubs >>>>>>> all over my legs, purrs and now he can't walk without stumbling >>>>>>> all over? That makes no sense to me. Could it be that he is low >>>>>>> on potassium? But how, when he had fluids? Maybe he has a brain >>>>>>> tumor or something. He just peed on my couch twice. Just laid >>>>>>> there and did it. Not like him. She also said he is not anemic. >>>>>>> His nose is very pink and his gums are pink. Well that's all I >>>>>>> know. Oh, I did just give him 500 mcg of methyl B12. It won't >>>>>>> hurt! She also told me to give him 81 mg of baby aspirin 2X a >>>>>>> week. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks you guys for listening(-: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 3, 2011, at 10:02 AM, "Gloria B. Lane" <[email protected] >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>> I was thinking about that. I haven't been following all of >>>>>>>> this, but with anemia, that's what I did with Mittens (a long >>>>>>>> time ago). Some vets just aren't really willing or able to try >>>>>>>> and help a sick FELV cat - though they might be trainable :) >>>>>>>> You can of course give him sub-q fluids at home. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My vet said that we could do a couple of blood >>>>>>>> transfusions, ,but that no more than that. Not sure why - for >>>>>>>> biological reasons or practical reasons. but a transfusion >>>>>>>> might pump him up till he could get LTCI or interferon or >>>>>>>> something. Course as I recall, interferon alpha is more of a >>>>>>>> preventative than a treatment. Not sure about interferon omega. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Gloria >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 3, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Lynda Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Marcia, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Has Fletch had a blood transfusion yet? I've heard this helps >>>>>>>>> tremendously. Did your vet tell you she will order the LCTI? >>>>>>>>> Did she do any lab work to find out what his blood cell counts >>>>>>>>> are? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> He may have not cried all the way there because he is too >>>>>>>>> weak. I'm so sorry he is such bad shape!! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In my opinion, just go with your heart. I know you don't want >>>>>>>>> the poor little guy to suffer. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hugs~ >>>>>>>>> Lynda >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcia Baronda" >> <[email protected] >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 9:17 AM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone >>>>>>>>>> I hope everyone and all kitties are happy and doing well. >>>>>>>>>> I'm really afraid that I am going to lose Fletch. I took him >>>>>>>>>> back to the vet yesterday for sub q fluids. He had a temp of >>>>>>>>>> over 105. Bonier than what he was last week. She gave him a >>>>>>>>>> long lasting penicillin shot. She did mention that most >>>>>>>>>> people don't mess with it, they euthanize. He didn't cry all >>>>>>>>>> the way there (25 miles) which is highly unusual. I gave her >>>>>>>>>> the info on LCTI and she was on the computer looking it up >>>>>>>>>> when I left. I asked just HOW sick is fletch and she said >>>>>>>>>> VERY. When I got him home he was extremely off balance and >>>>>>>>>> couldn't navigate. He wasn't like that the day before. His >>>>>>>>>> quality of life sucks! It's hard for me to tell if this is >>>>>>>>>> permanent or just a passing bacterial infection. Opinions >>>>>>>>>> from the experts? (all of you)(-: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much >>>>>>>>>> Marcia >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2011, at 9:13 PM, katskat1 <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Is each vial an individual dose or are there multiple doses >>>>>>>>>>> per vial? >>>>>>>>>>> I am afraid this is way too expensive for my unemployment >>>>>>>>>>> check but >>>>>>>>>>> want the info if I have to try to find a way to obtain it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>> Kat >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 8/31/11, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, I just ordered 10 vials for $420 plus shipping through >>>>>>>>>>>> a distributor in >>>>>>>>>>>> Texas, let me know if someone needs more infor. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:58:05 -0500 >>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Definitely try to get some LTCI. We put dexter on it for >>>>>>>>>>>> the last few weeks >>>>>>>>>>>> of his life and I feel that if we had started sooner, he >>>>>>>>>>>> might have lived a >>>>>>>>>>>> bit longer. LTCI is only available from the manufacturer: >> www.tcyte.com >>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>> if your vet will order it, they will overnight the >>>>>>>>>>>> medication to the vet. I >>>>>>>>>>>> was paying roughly $60 per dose at 1 dose every three days. >>>>>>>>>>>> It is possible >>>>>>>>>>>> to be more aggressive with the treatment and administer it >>>>>>>>>>>> daily. The other >>>>>>>>>>>> up-side to this medication is that it is administered via >>>>>>>>>>>> sub-cutaneous >>>>>>>>>>>> injection - immunoregulin, on the the other hand, is via IV >>>>>>>>>>>> injection. The >>>>>>>>>>>> IV injection will stress the kitty out about 1000 times >>>>>>>>>>>> more than a sub-q >>>>>>>>>>>> injection. Immunoregulin also made Dexter spike a fever >>>>>>>>>>>> after each dose - >>>>>>>>>>>> something he didn't need and quickly wore him out. Tcyte >>>>>>>>>>>> can also slow the >>>>>>>>>>>> inevitable appearance of dreaded lymphatic cancer. Many >>>>>>>>>>>> benefits with this >>>>>>>>>>>> stuff. Please call the tcyte folks tomorrow - they are >>>>>>>>>>>> very helpful and >>>>>>>>>>>> will give you all the info you need. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- My iPhone told me to send this message. -- >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 30, 2011, at 10:43 PM, Marcia Baronda >> <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone >>>>>>>>>>>> I really need some help. >>>>>>>>>>>> fletch is really not feeling well. His fever is back and he >>>>>>>>>>>> hides in the >>>>>>>>>>>> basement. Two times now he has missed doses of his >>>>>>>>>>>> antibiotic because i >>>>>>>>>>>> cannot find him anywhere. It seems like I can feel more of >>>>>>>>>>>> his backbone and >>>>>>>>>>>> his hipbones even though he continues to eat, but not as >>>>>>>>>>>> well. I don't know >>>>>>>>>>>> what to think. I feel so bad for him, he seems miserable.He >>>>>>>>>>>> acts like the >>>>>>>>>>>> base of his ear hurts when I touch him but the vet said he >>>>>>>>>>>> had never seen >>>>>>>>>>>> such clean ears. I think I need a different antibiotic, >>>>>>>>>>>> this amoxi isn't >>>>>>>>>>>> working, or doees it take longer to work? There seemed to >>>>>>>>>>>> be a teensy bit of >>>>>>>>>>>> improvement, but now I feel like he looks as bad as the day >>>>>>>>>>>> I took him to >>>>>>>>>>>> the vet. What about this LTCI. Is this something I should >>>>>>>>>>>> discuss with my >>>>>>>>>>>> vet? Is it better than immunoregulin. I just feel like my >>>>>>>>>>>> poor little cat is >>>>>>>>>>>> wasting away here fast and there's something else I can be >>>>>>>>>>>> doing for him >>>>>>>>>>>> What do I do???? >>>>>>>>>>>> Natalie, are you and all of your babies OK? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much >>>>>>>>>>>> Marcia >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 3:42 PM, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO >> <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Where do you guys get LTCI? >>>>>>>>>>>> the distributor that my vet uses now only carry 3 vials set >>>>>>>>>>>> - they used to >>>>>>>>>>>> have 10 vials as it is much chepaer that way- could you >>>>>>>>>>>> tell me where is the >>>>>>>>>>>> best place to get LTCI? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> hideyo >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Marcia Baronda >>>>>>>>>>>> Baronda Supplies & Service, Inc. >>>>>>>>>>>> 1550 S 2700 Rd. >>>>>>>>>>>> Herington, Kansas 67449 >>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 785-466-2501 >>>>>>>>>>>> Cell: 785-230-6499 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> " I wish to address ethics as it applies to our companion >>>>>>>>>>>> animals. As a >>>>>>>>>>>> veterinarian, I am an advocate for the rights of these >>>>>>>>>>>> wonderful beings who >>>>>>>>>>>> inhabit the earth and our homes, sharing this journey with >>>>>>>>>>>> us. It is my >>>>>>>>>>>> conviction that these animals,and all plants and animals, >>>>>>>>>>>> domesticated or >>>>>>>>>>>> wild, have inherent rights that are separate from their >>>>>>>>>>>> ability to benefit >>>>>>>>>>>> humans. They have the same right to exist as we do." 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