Thank you, Lee, for your words. We have a sanctuary for Felv+ cats. Yes, each cat is a joy and I do feel blessed to have been able to have spent time with each cat or kitten. I do cry and mourned each death. However, I do know that every cat gets to live out their natural lives, no matter how long or short. Sometimes I feel I can't do this anymore, but when I get a new call or email about a Felv+ cat, I know it is probably their only chance to live out their natural life. I, too, have found that if a kitten is born positive they usually don't make it to one year. There are always exceptions. I just lost my beloved Penelope at eight years old and she was born positive. She got cancer in her spine and it finally took her. Her mother lived to be at least ten years. So they graced this earth for a longer time than usual. Right now we are full and the cats are doing well. We get awhile where everyone is good and then 1-3 go across the Rainbow Bridge. Thank you again, Lee, for your words. Hilary Harris
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Re: FW: Transmittal via fleas (dlg...@windstream.net) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:06:43 -0400 (EDT) >From: pdxmarl...@aol.com >To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: [Felvtalk] please remove from mailing list >Message-ID: <8cf34d2b2b83661-1700-9...@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > >-------------- next part -------------- >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >URL: ><http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20120720/699ff910/attachment-0001.html> > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 22:08:50 -0500 >From: <dlg...@windstream.net> >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 12, Issue 9 >Message-ID: <20120720230850.5ZKFM.83373.root@pamxwww05-z01> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > >I have 2 positive cats. Annie is now 8 years and Nitnoy is 2 years. Both are >happy, healthy cats and live with 5 negatives. All are doing well. > > >---- Lee Evans <moonsiste...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Don't worry so much about Awesome Pawsome.? I adopted out an adult FeLv+ cat >> six years ago.? Called the adoptive mom this year to see if she would take >> another FeLv cat but she said she already had 2, the 6+ year old cat I gave >> her and another one who is now about 5 years old.? So they do live.? Her >> first FeLv cat lived to be around 7. > >? >Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty >neighbors too! > > > > >________________________________ > From: Kat Parker <korruptaki...@gmail.com> >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 9:34 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 12, Issue 9 > > >For the ones who have never seen or heard of this happening, it happens more >than some might think! > >?I have a cat, now, Awesome Pawsome, who was one of a litter I?socialized?from >a feral mom. ? ?There?were?4 kittens--two siamese, a gray, and a tortie, in >this litter. ?Mom was TNR'd from a?feral?colony, here in?San?Diego. ?When >tested at about 9 weeks old, all except the gray were positive. ?60 days >later, only the tortie was positive. ? ?So 1/4 of my litter was born negative >from a positive Mom. WE did not test the mom, because the neuter scooter was >out of those?test tubes?that day. ?However,it was discovered, post-mortem, >that she?was?positive. ?You see, she died,?at?the colony, >several?months?later. ?Back to the kittens, 3/4--the negatives--were adopted >out to good homes, with the understanding that 2 had previously tested >positive, but "flipped" to negatives. ?All of those kittens are still negative >and alive. ?One of the four, the tortie, who was the most difficult to tame, >persistently tested positive, and the rescue >> I was then with, was considering putting her up for adoption, for free--on >> Craigslist! ?I could not let that happen to her, so I adopted her myself, >> and this was about 25 months ago. She now is probably the healthiest ,Kitty >> I have here, of all my fosters and personal cats, except for the fact she is >> FeLV+ status. ?I did almost lose her once, to?killer?calici, and she had >> such swollen joints and was lame on all fours, alternating 3 legs at a time, >> for over three months, besides the sores, and all of the other oddities that >> accompany calici. ? All my cats got it, even though?Pawsome?lives in my >> room, ISO, did not?come?into contact with any others... ?and I almost lost >> her. ?Other than that, she has only had?sniffles?and?a?sneeze, which >> I?immediately?start antibiotics at the tiniest indication of. > >I do realize that she is on her third year of life, and?usually kitties?don't >make it this far, and?dread every day she?might be sick from something minute. >?I watch her like a hawk, for fear of losing her. But she has beat the odds so >far,?and?I hope she continues to be healthy and happy and playful, like she is >now, for a long time to come. > >Kat > > >? >From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans >>Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 7:14 PM >>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Transmittal via fleas >>? >>Some kittens born to FeLv+ mothers do turn negative but it's more likely that >>an adult who contracted the disease from another adult will fight it off and >>turn negative, like my cats Moses and Percy.? Percy is FIV+ though.? He's a >>young street fighter rescued in terrible condition.? I'm really happy he >>fought off the FeLv.? I have an FIV+ area for my little colony of positives >>so no problem.? Percy is going to join them this week.? He's all shiny and >>fat now. >>? >>The bad news about FeLv kittens is that most of them never make it to >>adulthood.? The ones who do will live for about 2 years.? Taco and Smooch >>were rescued as adults already.? They were FeLv+.? They lived with me for >>about 2 years.? They were buddies, from different street situations but they >>bonded nicely the last year of their lives. >>? >>Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty >>neighbors too! >>? >> >>________________________________ >> >>From:GRAS <g...@optonline.net> >>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 4:50 PM >>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Transmittal via fleas >>? >>In the 20 years of cat rescue, with so many FIV+ mother cats, not a single >>kitten EVER was FIV+!? And when and if tested, there was absolutely no sign >>of it by age 3 months, although some vets say that it could be up to 6 >>months. They shed the virus quite rapidly as their immune systems develop. >>I have never heard of kittens born to FeLV mothers ever being negative. >>? >>? >> >> >> >>---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>From:?Beth <create_me_...@yahoo.com> >>To:?"felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> >>Cc:? >>Date:?Thu, 19 Jul 2012 06:44:39 -0700 (PDT) >>Subject:?Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FIV & FeLV kittens >> >>I've always seen FIV kittens turn negative after being taken away from mom >>for a period. I've never seen a kitten positive on an FeLV test turn negative >>later. I have seen litters where 1 might consistently test negative on an >>Elisa & the others are positive, but the negative has always eventually >>turned positive, even after being removed from mom. >> >>I know there are others with different experiences, but this has always been >>my experience.. >> >> >>Beth >> >>? >>Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!?www.Furkids.org >>? >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 3 >Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 22:43:07 -0500 >From: <dlg...@windstream.net> >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Transmittal via fleas >Message-ID: <20120720234307.O4SSU.83493.root@pamxwww05-z01> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > >Amen to that! > > >---- Beth <create_me_...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Well said Lee!!!! > >Beth > >? >Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!?www.Furkids.org >? > > >________________________________ > From: Lee Evans <moonsiste...@yahoo.com> >To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> >Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 2:19 AM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Transmittal via fleas > > >The good news in all this grief and tragedy is that the humans who take on the >task of caring for these lovely, deserving cats are the ones who suffer.? The >cats are given a gift of life for as long as they can maintain it and then are >given the gift of an easy out before they are suffering.? So we get left with >the grief and they are at peace and at rest.? To be able to allow a cat to >live because we understand how precious they are, in spite of this or that >defect, in spite of this or that illness which might or might not be fatal >sooner or later is what should make this worth while to all of us who care and >are enlightened.? A few buckets of tears is a small price to pay to allow >these loving angels to live with us. > >? >Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty >neighbors too! > > > > >________________________________ > From: Natalie <at...@optonline.net> >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:48 PM >Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: Transmittal via fleas > > >The FeLV kitten that I had didn?t make it past 3 months?.it was really sad for >Nemo to be isolated from all the cats, especially at such a young age?he >started having a serious seizure and it was the end. >One of the adult cats was adopted, had a really bad episode after his move >from the stress, but is doing really well again. ?His new ?mom? is a >veterinarian.? The other one died from renal failure ? he was a lot older than >we thought. >Natalie >? >From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans >Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 7:14 PM >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Transmittal via fleas >? >Some kittens born to FeLv+ mothers do turn negative but it's more likely that >an adult who contracted the disease from another adult will fight it off and >turn negative, like my cats Moses and Percy.? Percy is FIV+ though.? He's a >young street fighter rescued in terrible condition.? I'm really happy he >fought off the FeLv.? I have an FIV+ area for my little colony of positives so >no problem.? Percy is going to join them this week.? He's all shiny and fat >now. >? >The bad news about FeLv kittens is that most of them never make it to >adulthood.? The ones who do will live for about 2 years.? Taco and Smooch were >rescued as adults already.? They were FeLv+.? They lived with me for about 2 >years.? They were buddies, from different street situations but they bonded >nicely the last year of their lives. >? >Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty >neighbors too! >? > >________________________________ > >From:GRAS <g...@optonline.net> >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 4:50 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Transmittal via fleas >? >In the 20 years of cat rescue, with so many FIV+ mother cats, not a single >kitten EVER was FIV+!? And when and if tested, there was absolutely no sign of >it by age 3 months, although some vets say that it could be up to 6 months. >They shed the virus quite rapidly as their immune systems develop. >I have never heard of kittens born to FeLV mothers ever being negative. >? >? >_______________________________________________ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > >_______________________________________________ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 12, Issue 11 >**************************************** _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
