Fruitarians – fruit fall off when ripe, eat only raw foods.  

I eat root vegetables, too much nutrition in them not to, especially beets – I 
couldn’t live without them.

There are actually people who live on energy (Hunzas) – breatherians!


Yes, I’ve heard of the book!  Good idea – it’s really frustrating when really 
good friends continue to eat meat, and order horrible things like veal when you 
go out with them, and then have the nerve to ask, you wanna taste it (even 
worse, forgetting that we haven’t eaten meat for almost 30 years?)  One good 
fiend never orders meat when we go out…..

From: Felvtalk [] On Behalf Of 
Kathryn Hargreaves
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Bow hunting


The Jains eat only things that fall from the plants, so the plants don't get 
killed.  After I read this, I quit eating root veggies.   On the other hand, 
they do not believe in keeping pets, much along the lines of PeTA, except they 
don't kill them.


Have you seen this book?   It may be a key to helping transition more people 
away from eating meat:



On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 6:36 AM, Natalie <> wrote:

Tell me about being treated as a terrorist!  It has become much better now, as 
far as the general population goes, however, AETA, that’s another wonderful 
thing…. (Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act of 2006, passed by only six members, 
under GWB, and the only one who voted against it was Kucinich!) – which can 
make any of us terrorists because of its broad range.

I agree…two cat helper who work here have become vegetarian, and one is well on 
the way to being vegan. It was by example, and discussion.

However, whenever the debate on hunting comes up, and I have many, I am 
immediately accused of eating meat and that it’s not any different than 
venison..when they find out that I do not eat any meat, they start accusing me 
of killing vegetables, that if that’s how I feel about killing, I shouldn’t 
kill them either.  It’s just a distraction, of course.

I am also asked what I eat, and believe me, we use a lot of beans of every 
kind, we don’t suffer from boredom nor do we give up on delicious food  - yes, 
I cook a lot, and I love making up new dishes.  I even started making my own 
soy milk, which is easy and better without all the additives of store-bought.

From: Felvtalk [] On Behalf Of Lee 
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bow hunting


When I first joined the animal welfare movement, I was and still am an animal 
rights activist, vegan by ethics and choice.  I was treated by some as if I 
were a terrorist, barely tolerated by them, feared by others, ignored by still 
others.  Finally, one of the fearful people asked me what vegetarians eat.  I 
ask back what did she think they ate and she said, "Cabbage, carrots, lettuce, 
you know, vegetables."  I told her that she had probably mistaken us for 
rabbits.  Then I explained the bean protocol, the tofu and soy protocol to her. 
 She wrinkled her nose and said that this can't be healthy.  I wrinkled my nose 
right back at her and said that eating a dead animal isn't healthy either.  
Some years later, I met her again.  She asked after my cats, found that I had 
as many as I originally had, then asked me if I were still a vegan.  I told her 
I was and she said the she wasn't yet a vegan but she was a vegetarian because 
of all the horrid things she had heard about how meat was raised and processed. 
 I think that if you are polite and courteous and patient with people and your 
belief is rational, logical and legitimate, you can eventually educate most 
people to see your way of thinking as acceptable and even worth trying 
especially if that belief gets enough press coverage and publicity.



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