OOPS!  just realized this was not about Harley, but it sure can apply to him.

--- Lee Evans wrote: > Can you enclose with wire mesh a back porch or have 
someone construct an outside cat escape-safe enclosure?  Sounds like Harley 
needs a little change of scenery. I have an enclosure here for some problem 
cats as well as the overflow from my cat room.  They are perfectly happy to 
watch birds, deer, coons and other critters from the enclosure because they 
feel that they are outside.   Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird 
relatives and nasty neighbors too! >________________________________ > From: 
"dlg...@windstream.net" >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Monday, 
November 5, 2012 2:43 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty > >While 
we are on this subject, my Harley is my problem.  He was born on his owner's 
lap and has never been outside before I got him at 3 months.  He goes out for 2 
or 3 hours during the day.  He and the others go down on the ground to do their 
thing and then most come back on the deck to lounge in the sunshine.  My 
problem is that in the last month or so Harley insists on being outside all 
day, 24/7.  He is acting more like a feral and when I refuse to let him out he 
waits until I am looking and then sprays, usually within 3 or 4 feet of me.  I 
can see it on his face, "I said I want out!  Let me out or I will spray 
everything in site, not to mention pace the floor, deliberatly knock theings 
down."  I have never seen this problem on "My Cat From Hell".  Usually bad 
behavior comes from trauma in their past.  He has alsways had a loving home 
with people.  Where does this come from?  He is also super active, like a 
Savannah, jumps so high he hts > his head on the ceiling when chasing a moth or 
fly. >---- katskat1 wrote: >> Lee, >> >> I don't think Oz is going to end up 
being a sprayer but we will have >> to wait and see how he handles it once he 
come out of solitude and, >> hopefully, begins interacting with the other 
cats.  I suspect he may >> end up being a loner but that remains to be seen. >> 
>> As for clean up with mop and pail, my problem is the carpeting in the >> 
bedrooms.  I have laminate flooring in the kitchen/lr/dr but carpet in >> the 
bedroom which is, of course where he sprayed his smelly tomcat >> marker. Right 
on the doorframe between the master bath and bedroom.  I >> found that a 
mixture of about 50/50 white vinegar and water seems to >> neutralize the odor 
so it isn't tempting for the other cats. >> >> As for Polar Bear, he doesn't 
see cats as snacks, he sees them as >> another version of a squeaky play toy 
that self motivates - FAST - and >> he loves it.  The other cats are, for the 
most part, used to it but Oz >> showed no sense of humor and no desire to play 
the first time around. >> Again, time will tell. >> >> k >> >> On 11/5/12, Lee 
Evans wrote: >> > If the dog doesn't try to make Oz into a snack, the two will 
eventually get >> > used to each other and set ground rules.  As for Oz and 
spraying, it's >> > sometimes the neighborhood fighters that give up the whole 
thing as a bad >> > idea once they find themselves neutered and cared for by a 
loving human and >> > never spray again. Like I said in another post on this 
topic, the horrid >> > odor that accompanies an intact male cat totally 
disappears once they are >> > neutered and all that you are left with is a 
spritz of pee that can be >> > washed off with lemon detergent or something 
else pleasant.  Most of my >> > enthusiastic sprayers gave it up after they 
realized that they were living >> > with a family of rescued cats, no one was 
their enemy any more and they >> > didn't have to set territorial boundaries.  
Now they stick to having a hissy >> > fit occasionally, maybe a face slapping 
contest but I haven't had a real >> > battle or full wall spray job in over two 
years.  My problem here is that >> > lots >> >  of the cats "think" outside of 
the box.  This is an issue that calls for a >> > plastic paint scraper to pick 
up the offering and a bucket lined with a >> > plastic bag to drop it in.  
After everything is cleaned up, it's mop and >> > pail time and the house is 
back to normal until the next day.  Sigh.  For >> > this I needed a college 
degree. >> > >> > >> > >> > Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird 
relatives and nasty >> > neighbors too! >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> 
>>________________________________ >> >> From: Martha Walton >> >>To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> >>Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 11:22 AM >> 
>>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty >> >> >> >> >> >>Kat, you have 
such a big heart.  Oz, Miss Kitty are lucky felines.  Thanks >> >> everybody in 
this group for being so supportive to animals & their humans. >> >> >> >> >> 
>>On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:18 PM, katskat1 wrote: >> >> >> >>Thanks all. >> 
>>> >> >>>Surprisingly, Oz appears to have sprayed once and nothing since.  
When >> >>>I brought him home from the vet his poor mouth hurt and all he did 
was >> >>>drink water and sleep.  Now he is up and about, tried leaving the >> 
>>>bathroom once, and while the other cats hissed at him and the dog >> 
>>>tried to chase him, nobody sprayed or fought.  Miss Kitty hisses at >> 
>>>everybody so they hiss back.  It will take a while. >> >>> >> >>>I did get 
some felaway today to keep on hand. >> >>> >> >>>Kat >> >>> >> >>>On 11/1/12, 
Kathryn Green wrote: >> >>>> Tomorrow morning Ozzy goes in for neuter, exam, 
testing and >> >>>> vaccinations.  Following day Miss Kitty goes with me to 
pick up Ozzy >> >>>> to get her exam and vaccinations. >> >>>> >> >>>> Gonna 
have to rob a bank for this but want to get it done quickly as >> >>>> Oz is 
causing some unrest within the ranks.  My other cats seem to be >> >>>> jealous 
of an intact male and wanna get thru the door to prove they >> >>>> were here 
first - or something! >> >>>> >> >>>> So far they are both doing well. >> >>>> 
>> >>>> Kat >> >>>> >> >>> >> 
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