The ovaries are responsible for the heat cycle, so they would still go into 
heat & still be more prone to mammary cancer & stress.

KG BarnCats <kgbarnc...@gmail.com> wrote:

>It's a very interesting article/study.  I think they are not advocating
>that pets go unspayed but rather there be further study of spay where only
>the uterus is removed.  But in addition to risks like mammary cancer, I
>worry about spayed pets in heat and their hormonally driven efforts to
>escape the house to mate.  How many pets are lost, injured and killed that
>way?  How many pet owners will be upset by the pet's behaviors and possible
>mess while the pet keeps cycling in heat?   It is a multi-faceted issue
>that I hope gets more research.
>
>Kg
>
>
>
>On Tuesday, November 20, 2012, Kathryn Hargreaves <khargrea...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>> Perhaps this information will be useful to other folks on this list,
>then, since Felv shortens lifespan in general.
>> Dogs are more likely to get both mammary cancer and pyometra than are
>cats, and ovary retention seems to override this, along with their heat
>stresses.    However, cats are polyestrous (go into heat several times a
>year) whereas dogs are diestrous (two heat cycles a year), so cats have
>more heat stresses, which may or may not override the ovary-retention
>effect.  Note that breeders use various methods of getting cats they don't
>want pregnant out of heat, so perhaps one could sufficiently reduce the
>stress to that of a dog's.
>> I've heard of cats living to over 30, and since this study looks at the
>outliers for what's possible, we might look at 30+ years as an upper bound
>for cat longevity, at least non-Felv+ ones.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Beth <create_me_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm not going to start an argument over one study.
>>> Being in heat was very stressful on the one of the 1st FeLV cats I had.
>The spay was easy & she recovered quickly.
>>> My cats have all been spayed. We've had cats live well into their 20's -
>all spayed.
>>> Cats who still have their ovaries, which are responsible for heat
>cycles, are much more likely to develop mammary cancer.
>>> Cats (& dogs) can also develop an infection in their uterus (pyometra)
>from not being spayed..
>>>
>>> There is just not enough evidence out there to make me even think about
>not getting my cats, FeLV or not,  spayed.
>>>
>>> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Kathryn Hargreaves <khargrea...@gmail.com>
>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 3:41 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Spaying advice
>>>
>>> If that's the case, then why do dogs who retain their ovaries live a
>third longer?    There's more to the overall story than just local
>stresses: http://www.gpmcf.org/respectovaries.html   American vet schools
>do not teach any sterilizations other than spay/neuter.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Beth <create_me_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> My vet said being in heat is more stressful than the surgery. I would
>wait for the retest, though. If still positive have a full bloodwork panel
>done to make sure she is healthy, just as you would for a senior kitty.
>>> Hope all goes well.
>>>
>>> Beth
>>>
>>> Maryam Ulomi <ava...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Hello everyone,
>>> >
>>> >We are looking at possibly spaying Kitty, our 5 months old FeLV rescued
>feral baby. She is currently on the lysine and living large in her own
>room, isolated from our other two cats, since she posted positive but we
>are retesting her at 6months, which should be in December.
>>> >Should we retest first and then spay?
>>> >Is there anything we should know/do to prepare ?
>>> >
>>> >Any suggestions are welcome
>>> >
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>> If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save
>their life.  Contact your local pound for information.
>> If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and
>to free up cage space.
>>
>> Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by
>implementing the No Kill Equation:
>http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/
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>>
>> Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org
>>
>> More fun reading:
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>>
>> More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially
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