Breeders have vasectomized males around to get their intact females out of heat.
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Bonnie Hogue <ho...@sonic.net> wrote: > Someone would get a male cat a vasectomy? Or have a female cat’s tubes > tied?**** > > Wow…people are stupider than I thought…**** > > B.**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf > Of *janine paton > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 20, 2012 6:27 PM > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Spaying advice**** > > ** ** > > The stress of an unspayed female is great, I think much greater than the > spaying itself. And it may be true that pyometria is more common in dogs, > but boy have we seen plenty in outside cats, even young ones. One couldn't > have been more than a year old and we had no idea her slightly swollen > belly was pyometria. And have h ad a few with mammary cancer also. Not > worth it. Use a decent vet and get your cat spayed! **** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Lee Evans <moonsiste...@yahoo.com> > *To:* "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > *Sent:* Tue, November 20, 2012 8:57:09 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Spaying advice**** > > Amen to that sister. My cat Cookie, long ago, was borderline diabetic. > The vet didn't want to subject her to anesthesia because he said she was an > older cat and might develop full blown diabetes since she was on the edge. > So I didn't have her spayed. She went into her heat cycle several more > times, then gave it up as a bad idea. She lived an additional 5 years with > me as a house feral. One day I noticed blood on her chair towel (I use > towels to cover the plastic chairs in my house. Everything here has to be > washable). I also noticed that Cookie was acting very lethargic. I > finally got her into a carrier. At the clinic they flipped her over and I > was horrified. All her nipples were black, some were enlarged, two were > bleeding. She had severe mammary cancer. The vet said she was probably in > pain. There was nothing I could do. He gave her a pain injection. She > became drowsy and I allowed him to euthanize her. I will NEVER NOT SPAY a > cat. Male cats can get prostate cancer. There is no proven reason why > cats and dogs can't be spayed and neutered. Humans have the operation all > the time for ovarian cancer and prostate cancer. If physicians didn't do > hysterectomies on women with cancer or with precancerous lesions the > cancers would metastasize and more people would die. > > In addition, try and get an intact spraying male cat or howling female cat > adopted. It will just not work. > > Or, as an alternative, get the female's tubes tied and give the male a > vasectomy and you still have all the mating behavior in addition to the > operations costing almost a thousand dollars as opposed to spay/neuter that > can be had for a cost as low as $15 including rabies shot. > > I want to add that my mother, a registered nurse at the time, forbade me > to have any of our yard cats neutered or spayed citing the ridiculous > argument that animals and people have to be left natural. Consequently I > allowed two intact cats to remain that way, filling my yard with 7 kittens > who, although I didn't know it, were FeLv positive and active for the > disease. They all died. Had I spayed and neutered mom and dad cat, I > would have saved 7 kittens from being born and dying in illness and > discomfort and possibly saved mom and dad cats from wandering away to > spread the disease all over the neighborhood.**** > > ** ** > > **** > > *Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty > neighbors too!***** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Beth <create_me_...@yahoo.com> > *To:* "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:15 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Spaying advice**** > > ** ** > > I'm not going to start an argument over one study. > Being in heat was very stressful on the one of the 1st FeLV cats I had. > The spay was easy & she recovered quickly. > My cats have all been spayed. We've had cats live well into their 20's - > all spayed. > Cats who still have their ovaries, which are responsible for heat cycles, > are much more likely to develop mammary cancer. > Cats (& dogs) can also develop an infection in their uterus (pyometra) > from not being spayed.. > > There is just not enough evidence out there to make me even think about > not getting my cats, FeLV or not, spayed.**** > > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org <http://www.furkids.org/>* > *** > > **** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > ** ** > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > -- ---------------------------- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. <http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm> If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/<http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/> Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.no-killnews.com/ (see the right sidebar) Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537
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