Regarding the Winstrol, are there any scientific studies I can show my vet?

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 1:04 PM, Kelley S <[email protected]> wrote:

> I am having a problem with the list.  I never see the initial posts (for
> example I did not see this one) , and there were many replies before the
> thread hit my inbox.    Merlin is hanging in there.
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Amani Oakley <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> That’s exactly what it does. In humans, it is also given to treat severe
>> non responsive genetic anemia. However, it is an anabolic steroid which
>> athletes use, so it is also excellent to build muscle mass in cats that are
>> wasting and as I mentioned, it is a superb appetite stimulant.
>>
>>
>>
>> Quite unfortunately in my opinion, it got a bad reputation because (a)
>> athletes abuse it and (b) there was this observation in the vet world that
>> it caused liver damage. When our beautiful little Zander had his miraculous
>> turn-around, I waited a full year to contact the internal medicine
>> specialist who had seen in him in the ER clinic and had administered blood
>> transfusions to Zander. That vet and everyone else had told us that there
>> was nothing else that could be done when Zander reacted to the second blood
>> transfusion, and we were told a third transfusion would likely kill him as
>> he had now developed antibodies to the foreign red cells. When I called
>> this vet to tell him of Zander’s amazing turn-around and the fact that
>> Zander was actually still alive and doing very well after a year, the
>> internist said to me that I had “gone old school” in using the Winstrol.
>> When I asked him what he meant, he explained that they used to use Winstrol
>> all the time for leukemia and a host of other conditions in cats, but they
>> had stopped when some talk at some vet conference suggested that it might
>> cause liver damage. I explained that we had followed Zander’s blood work
>> closely, and while we did see a rise in some liver enzymes eventually, they
>> went back to normal after tapering the medication, and there were no
>> lasting problems with the liver. We have now seen this in several other
>> cats with other conditions like sarcoma, FIP, etc. We have had good
>> response to the Winstrol in almost every scenario we have tried it (and we
>> always take the sickest of the sickest cats to look after), and
>> occasionally we seek a spike in liver enzymes but it doesn’t affect the
>> cats and it disappears with no lasting effect on the liver.
>>
>>
>>
>> Amani
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf
>> Of *Jenn Trotter
>> *Sent:* September-21-15 1:25 PM
>>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Testing the list
>>
>>
>>
>> Amani - I am interested in Winstrol. Is that something that has been
>> tested to help non-regenerative anemia?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Amani Oakley <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Katherine
>>
>>
>>
>> See my email regarding use of Winstrol. I tried LTCI injections on our
>> little boy, while monitoring him extremely closely with weekly blood work.
>> The LTCI did absolutely nothing for him, though we tried it for at least
>> six months. As soon as I put him on the Winstrol, and again, running weekly
>> blood work, his red blood cell numbers began to climb – and I mean within
>> days of starting the medication. They continued to climb, as did his
>> platelets which had also been running low. His reticulocyte count
>> (measuring new red cell production) also went up, and it had been at almost
>> zero for more than 8 months before the Winstrol. We had given him several
>> blood transfusions because he just wasn’t producing any red cells himself.
>>
>>
>>
>> Amani
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf
>> Of *Katherine K.
>> *Sent:* September-21-15 11:24 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Testing the list
>>
>>
>>
>> We are hanging in there. My 2.5 year old, Jazz just went for his annual
>> check up and weighed in at 13.5 lbs! He's quite healthy. My 12-13 yr old
>> cat Krammer used to weight that much but has lost 2 lbs since May
>> unfortunately, and is now down to 9.5 lbs. He is on a low dose of
>> Prednisolone to stimulate appetite. I'm debating whether to buy more LTCI
>> injections - he's had them monthly for the past 2 years but they're just so
>> costly and hard to measure if they actually do anything.  Sigh.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Jennifer Lewis <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> All good here. Brynn seems as healthy as can be...
>> Jennifer L
>>
>> On Sep 21, 2015, at 7:52 AM, James G Wilson wrote:
>>
>> > Hey all,
>> >
>> > Just testing the list. There hasn't been any traffic in
>> > awhile. Hope everyone and their little ones are doing well.
>> > Best wishes.
>> >
>> > James G Wilson - [email protected]
>> > (217) 816-8680 (cell)
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