Ardy, I am so sorry about Tigger. You certainly fought the good fight and gave him more time. He sounds like a very special cat who was much loved. He was very lucky to have had you.
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Re: Tucker escapade, & Tigger ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 7:24:18 -0500 > From: <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker escapade, & Tigger > Message-ID: <20160510082418.GDTZH.19819.root@pamxwww01-z01> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Sorry for your loss, not much tht can be said to ease the loss, but will keep > you in my prayers. > > > ---- Ardy Robertson <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi Rachel and everyone on this site, > > Amusing story (kind of - after the happy ending) about Tucker's Saturday > morning stroll and then asking for a snack! > > Unfortunately, I lost my baby boy Tigger last Friday evening. I have not been > able to talk much about it since then, but since you asked, and also since I > have been planning to send a message about him, here goes ---- Tigger was > doing wonderfully up until about Thursday afternoon, improving every day, > eating on his own, not dependent on his pain medication for nearly a month. > His bloodwork was absolutely astonishing to say the least from the nearly > flatline it had been! Even the pathologist at the lab put a note on his > report that he re-ran the tests because he could not believe what he was > seeing -- Tigg's non-regenerative leukemia was now regenerative!! Thursday > evening, he didn't seem quite comfortable, and by Friday morning he did not > want anything to eat and I started to worry. My husband watched him during > the day on Friday and I came home early from work because I was worried. He > passed away quietly at home, with us stroking him and telling him how much we > love him. I > am so thankful that I did not have to take him in to be put down. He did not > like going to the vet at all and he was terrified of shots and needles such > as blood draws. > > I do feel that if I had started him on the Winstrol and Prednisolone sooner, > along with a diet of the Hills Prescription A/D canned food he may have made > it. I also now know that had I used the antibiotic Doxycycline rather than > Convenia, it may have helped to prevent the virus from replicating. There are > a lot of "what ifs" and "if onlys" but I do feel wholeheartedly that the > Winstrol was what kept him going from early March until now. I also know that > the veterinary field offers no other alternative in my area, other than > euthanization which I would not consider doing to this wonderful little > orange furball who rescued us five and a half years ago. > > I also appreciate very much the time and effort Amani put in to help me with > her experience of successfully treating an FeLV positive kitty, her expertise > in interpreting lab results, and her friendship in supporting me on the > roller coaster of his illness, cheering with me at his achievements, laughing > with me at his antics, and finally crying with me as I lost him. > > For me, there will be other kitties perhaps. I do have two others, but there > will never ever be anything close to another cat like our Tigger Babe. Yes, > we can keep the bathroom doors open now and not have shredded TP, we can open > windows and doors and not get scratch marks in the screens, we don't have to > lock the door when we're gone because we are crazy cat-people and afraid he > would get out and be lost, we don't have to put chairs in front of the > cupboard doors so he doesn't go in them, we don't have exorbitant vet bills, > but I would gladly go back to all of that to have him back. > > I thank everyone who commented on things to try to help him, for all your > suggestions - I did try several of them. For now, I just have to remember the > five wonderful years Tigger spent with us! > > Thank you, > Ardy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Rachel Dagner > Sent: Monday, May 9, 2016 1:05 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker escapade, & Tigger > > My boyfriend accidentally let him out Saturday morning (he is one sneaky > cat) > and I spent an hour and a half following him around and trying to get him, > tried every trick in the book, I was upset because I was just about to do his > supplements when he made his escape. He stayed well out of reach chasing > lizards and bugs and very much enjoying himself with no concern for my > worries. I finally gave up and decided to work in the yard thinking he would > get curious and I could snatch him. My neighbor comes over and asked me if I > know he's out and I tell her yes and that I can't get him, that it is > impossible. She says to let her try, she walks over to my door I had open for > him and says come here Tucker. He walks right in the door and she closes it > behind him. I think she was pretty surprised by the big hug I gave her. > Then I came in and he acted as if nothing had happened and told me he would > like a snack. > > Has anyone heard from Ardy about Tigger. I hope he is continuing to improve... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Amani Oakley > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 12:13 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urinary Tract Issues > > Hi Rachel > > There are TWO types of steroids. Prednisone is corticosteroid. Winstrol is an > anabolic steroid. In contrast to anabolic steroids, corticosteroids like > Prednisone are used in inflammatory condition to reduce inflammation. They > start acting quickly and they reduce inflammation and tamp down the immune > system. Anabolic steroids, like Winstrol, on the other hand, build muscle and > tissue, speed up healing, increase appetite and strength, and are also used > in humans (and cats) to up red cell production in profound anemia. > Unlike prednisone, Winstrol does not damp down the immune system. Using the > two together works well in cats, and one thing about cats - they have a VERY > different responses to steroids than humans and dogs. Cats have a very good > response to prednisone and they do not suffer most of the side effects one > sees in people and dogs and you don?t need to be nearly as careful in with > the use of corticosteroids in cats (especially the need to gradually taper > them off as you do with people and dogs). > > Amani > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Rachel Dagner > Sent: May-06-16 11:57 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urinary Tract Issues > > Yes, he is on a long acting prednisone right now due to the lymphoma, my vet > (not holistic) has always cringed when we put him steroids because they say > it has bad side effects to begin with, and with FELV it suppresses the immune > system, yes I know, completely contradictory to what your experience with > steroids has been. One of the three parts of his Vitality Science protocol is > an herbal anti-inflammatory that I give him twice a day one hour after the > other treatments. I also put him on NVH Tripsy which a lot of positive > reviews for UTIs and crystals. But definitely if I notice even the smallest > amount of urination problems I will take your advice and discuss with my vet > keeping him on it long term. I also have metacam at home in my arsenal of > just in case of a urinary issue from my vet, it is a non steroidal > anti-inflammatory. My vet cringes about that to, I think because they feel it > is not as safe in cats as it is in dogs... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Amani Oakley > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 11:34 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urinary Tract Issues > > Rachel > > I think you mentioned before that you had had Tucker on prednisone, and if > you haven?t, then my suggestion would be having him on that for sure, on an > ongoing basis. Sounds like one of the problems is that the area may be > inflamed and thus, the whole blocks up again and again. Keeping the swelling > down with prednisone may be effective. This wouldn?t require you to > discontinue the holistic or alternative therapies. > > Amani > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Rachel Dagner > Sent: May-06-16 9:21 AM > To: Margo; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless > > Yes, it was that group, and they continued to make me feel horrible even > after I tried to explain my circumstances, and why I was trying something > else. I was told over and over flat out that holistic does not work and my > cat would die soon. If my situation with Tucker was different I would have > done chemo, I would never tell someone not to do chemo on their pet. Even if > someone said they would do nothing at all "palliative care" I would support > them, as it is so painful to lose an animal no matter what you choose. I pray > every day that I am giving Tucker QOL and that he defies the odds and lasts > as long as he would have with Chemo. My parents did (very expensive)chemo on > two of their cats, and they did not do well, they suffered as my parents had > a hard time giving up, they live with a lot of guilt for the lack of QOL. I > know this is not always the case and many animals do extremely well and even > go into remission, you just never know how an animal will respond or how long t > hey will last. If Tucker does not continue to do well on his current path I > might consider trying traditional, if I can somehow do it through my vet, you > never know I am only on day 17 and it has been a rough journey. It would cost > me about 1,000.00 just to go and get an ultrasound and biopsy from a > specialist, and I am not by any means wealthy and have pulled a significant > amount from my retirement account to try to save Tucker from his urinary > issues, and that turned out bad anyways. Thank you for the info and > understanding Margo and I will for sure check out Holisticat as well. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Margo > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 7:23 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless > > > It's very personal, and sometimes difficult choice. I don't know what my > choice would be for me, but for my animals I have chosen chemo in many cases, > and likely will again. > > I'm also not sure it's fair to compare "human" chemo protocols to those used > in Veterinary Medicine. For the Vets, the goal is to extend QUALITY life, not > necessarily cure. So the treatments are calibrated to balance the positive > and the negative. For humans, it's an all out attempt to kill the cancer > without killing the patient, but they pretty much push it to the edge of what > people will/can tolerate. For animals, it's to find the highest dose they can > tolerate WITHOUT compromising QOL. I had a great Vet, who would use the > allopathic chemos, and back it up with Traditional Chinese Medicine and > alternative options. She was trained in both and had no problem using them in > a complimentary manner. > > I understand choosing not to use chemo, and while I would encourage someone > to research and consider, I would TRY not to push. If it's the yahoo Feline > Lymphoma Group, yes, they can be pushy. I think it's because they have seen > such good results that they can't understand someone who won't even do a > trial. But they should back off when asked, and hopefully send the person to > a different source. Does HolistiCat still exist? They used to have a wide > range of opinions. Okay, yup! > > http://www.holisticat.com/en/ > > If you haven't already tried them, they might be more supportive of your > decisions. > > In any case, I hope that you find a way... > > Margo > > -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> Sent: May 6, 2016 2:40 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless >> >> Do what you think is best for both of you. I will always avoid chemo >> and the "proven" treatments because of my own experience with chemo. I >> will never go through that again nor wold I put anyone I love through >> it. Firt, all the chemos they used on me did not work, all that >> suffering for nothing. My oncologist has agreed that if it comes back, >> she will follow me on my choice of alternaitive medicine. Drs. only >> accept their ways, chemo, surgery and radiation. >> >> ---- Amani Oakley <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I agree Rachel. We have all posted about different treatments, and >>> our experiences with them, but it is up to everyone to decide how >>> they want to proceed. >>> >>> Amani >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>> Of swacht >>> Sent: May-05-16 8:49 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless >>> >>> Rachel please don?t apologize - I can't speak for everyone else - but >>> I'll bet everyone has walked in your shoes - you have every right to >>> be upset - it is a shame everyone doesn't understand - but this group >>> does. >>> Hang in there. >>> Sandy W >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Rachel Dagner >>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 8:39 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless >>> >>> That is wonderful they stayed negative. My mom told me not to take in >>> anymore strays after what I have been through with Tucker. And I >>> admit it has been so hard and sad and stressful, not to mention crazy >>> expensive. >>> But if Tucker goes (ok now I am crying again!) , if another cat comes >>> along and looks at me and asks for help I wouldn't hesitate, through >>> health problems, heartache or whatever. I joined another support >>> group today for lymphoma and I have gotten the opposite of support >>> because I don't have him on chemo. I feel like I have gotten the >>> opposite of support everywhere I have turned online, except my >>> friends and family. I feel really hurt by how unfeeling humans can >>> be. I guess that's why I love animals so much. Tucker is out here on >>> my screened porch with me happy as a clam, probably wondering why I >>> can't quit crying. It's time for me to give him his worst parent in >>> the world treatment. Maybe I should get off of all of these "support" >>> groups. They are making me miserable. Sorry, I know I totally barged >>> in and vented on this post. I am just feeling really upset. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On May 5, 2016, at 8:10 PM, <[email protected]> >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I mix my positive with my 3 negatives and for 5 years, none of them >>>> have turned. I agree that if she turned them over, he/she would be >>>> euthanized just because of the FELV. It is a shame that more vets >>>> are not up to date on info about this. >>>> >>>> >>>> ---- "Katherine K." <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> I messaged with someone from the group who has talked to Sharon, >>>>> although not in the last couple of days. She does not want to >>>>> surrender her animals to Charleston Animal Society because they >>>>> would require her to sign a form stating they could be euthanized >>>>> if sick. >>>>> She most likely has the FeLV positive cat mixed with the negatives. >>>>> The positive cat needs vet care. >>>>> She >>>>> needs to rehome some of her pets because there are pet limits for >>>>> most of the housing assistance places that were suggested by this >>>>> other person. >>>>> The >>>>> positive cat is probably the least likely to find a home (Assuming >>>>> the other 4 are still negative) so maybe folks on this list can >>>>> help network him. He is 9 yrs old, tuxedo, named Thomas. >>>>> If you'd like a photo, email me off list. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you Amani and Margo for your help so far! >>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Rachel Dagner >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I just looked up Rustic Hollow, what a wonderful place! I wish I >>>>>> could quit my job and go live there myself! Or if one of these >>>>>> darn lotto tickets would come through I could start my own maybe >>>>>> Sandy Paws of Florida. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>>>> Behalf Of [email protected] >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 1:57 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is >>>>>> homeless >>>>>> >>>>>> How well I know. Having to pay for a new roof hs put me close to >>>>>> that point. I am minding my finances and not buying anything >>>>>> until I get past the roof, hospital (fell and broke arm)copays. >>>>>> It can happen so fast. >>>>>> When >>>>>> I get bck on my feet, will try to help her. This has been my >>>>>> greatest fear, what would happen to my 4 cats if something >>>>>> hqppened to me. Trying to set up an account to transport them to >>>>>> Rustic Hollow and pay for their care when they get there. >>>>>> >>>>>> ---- Amani Oakley <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Margo >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I intend to raise enough money to give them a decent enough >>>>>>> cushion to >>>>>> pay >>>>>>> for those monthly amounts, for at least one year, and hopefully >>>>>>> two. I am great at online auctions, so if they have those in the >>>>>>> nearby >>>>>> communities, >>>>>>> I can easily pick up good furniture/dishes, etc., for low >>>>>>> numbers, so >>>>>> that >>>>>>> shouldn?t be a big issue. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I figure that this woman was renting so there must be some >>>>>>> source of >>>>>> money >>>>>>> in the future. If she and her son have enough of a cushion, this >>>>>>> helps people catch their breath and get back on their feet. It >>>>>>> is easy to get a little bit behind every week on bills and >>>>>>> expenses, until suddenly it becomes an insurmountable amount. If >>>>>>> she was looking after these animals and her son, there was >>>>>>> obviously some money for food, etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Amani >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>>>>> Behalf Of Margo >>>>>>> Sent: May-05-16 12:01 PM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is >>>>>>> homeless >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I will be happy to help (although humans aren't usually my thing >>>>>>> <g>). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My concern is how the family will cope in the future. Can they >>>>>>> afford the >>>>>>> $350 a month, plus utilities, food and pet food? Would this be >>>>>>> "rented" >>>>>> to >>>>>>> them, or lent, or rent with option? I'm not trying to be a wet >>>>>>> blanket, but even tho I'm also in SC, I'm to far to be of actual >>>>>>> on-site use. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just want to try to make this a re-homing, not just a foster >>>>>>> situation. >>>>>>> Told you people aren't my forte... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Margo >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Amani Oakley >>>>>>> Sent: May 5, 2016 11:32 AM >>>>>>> To: >>>>>>> "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is >>>>>>> homeless >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Katherine >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have not heard from Sharon, but I have heard back from my >>>>>>> former client in South Carolina, who has done a lot of research >>>>>>> for me (bless her >>>>>>> soul) >>>>>>> and come up with a number of options. The best one she presented >>>>>>> to me >>>>>> was >>>>>>> a 2 bedroom used mobile home in Summerville for about $7,000 >>>>>>> U.S. This is obviously quite inexpensive, and she says it >>>>>>> probably needs new carpeting and a new air conditioning system, >>>>>>> but probably for about $10,000 to >>>>>>> $12,000 U.S., with furniture, it is a good option. There is also >>>>>>> a >>>>>> monthly >>>>>>> fee for the lot, which is usually around $350 a month but it is >>>>>>> already >>>>>> in >>>>>>> a trailer park and wouldn?t have to be moved. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is a totally do-able target number for me. If I can hear >>>>>>> from her regarding whether she is in favour of this option, I >>>>>>> can get to work to get that mobile home for her. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hate to rely upon you to be the go-between, and if you are >>>>>>> unable to do that, I will have to venture onto Facebook, >>>>>>> regardless of my concerns. >>>>>> Let >>>>>>> me know. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Amani >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>>>>> Behalf Of Katherine K. >>>>>>> Sent: May-03-16 1:18 PM >>>>>>> To: >>>>>>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is >>>>>>> homeless >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hear you. I will private message her. I did find a GoFundMe >>>>>>> page she started -- without much luck it seems. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Amani Oakley >>>>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> Katherine >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don?t go on Facebook very often. I will try to get to it but I >>>>>>> am not very comfortable with it ? they keep way too much of your >>>>>>> personal information and track everything about you. Can you >>>>>>> privately message her and provide her with my email address? I >>>>>>> don?t want it posted publicly since obviously, every single >>>>>>> person in the world with a difficult situation will be >>>>>>> contacting me and I harbour enough guilt in my soul as it is. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is there someone else in South Carolina, close to her, with whom >>>>>>> I can collaborate to perhaps find a used trailer she can live in >>>>>>> with the animals and her son? I would be willing to spearhead >>>>>>> some fundraising. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Amani >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Felvtalk >>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto: >>>>>> [email protected]>] >>>>>>> On Behalf Of Katherine K. >>>>>>> Sent: May-03-16 1:07 PM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To: >>>>>>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is >>>>>>> homeless >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Amani, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for your message. I don't have an email or phone number >>>>>>> for Sharon Follin Jowers, but if you are on Facebook, you can >>>>>>> see the full conversation by joining the "Owners of FeLV+/FIV+ >>>>>>> cats" group. It's a private group, so you need to join the group >>>>>>> to see it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Once you are a member this link will take you to it: >>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/26073442228/permalink/1015419606 >>>>>>> 7502229/ >>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Katherine >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:58 PM, Amani Oakley >>>>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> Katherine >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I?m up in Canada so I can?t do much about finding a new home for >>>>>>> the animals. However, I would like to see if we might be able to >>>>>>> do something more permanent for a person with a good heart who >>>>>>> keeps animals like >>>>>> this. >>>>>>> Can you put me in touch with her? Can you get more details? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Amani >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Felvtalk >>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto: >>>>>> [email protected]>] >>>>>>> On Behalf Of Katherine K. >>>>>>> Sent: May-03-16 7:21 AM >>>>>>> To: >>>>>>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is >>>>>>> homeless >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> She lives in a motel room with five cats, a dog and I think her >>>>>>> adult son too. I think efforts have been made to raise money for >>>>>>> a rent deposit in the past for her but I am unclear on the >>>>>>> history. She just posted a request for help with rehoming her >>>>>>> animal(s). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The FeLV cat has some blood in his stool but sounds healthy and >>>>>>> playful otherwise. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any Charleston resources or rescues that I could pass along? >>>>>>> On May 3, 2016 2:57 AM, "Amani Oakley" >>>>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> Katherine >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is it too late to help the owner keep her house? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Amani >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemi >>>>>> a.org >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemi >>>>>> a.org >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia. >>>> org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>> g >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>> g _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 25 > **************************************** _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list [email protected] http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

