Recently, I have been putting coconut oil on a swab and jut dabbing it in the corner of my eye when it itches. My cats eat it all the time so it shouldn't hurt to put a small amount in your cats eye. would oothe it. ---- Amani Oakley <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Bob > > As I am not sure exactly what is wrong with your little boy's eye, I can only > suggest a more general approach. I have had good results with rinsing a cat's > eyes with daily contact lens solution. The solution is mostly just saline but > it usually contains very small amounts of disinfectants so as to disinfect > contact lenses but is safe to put into your eye. I will rinse a cat's eyes > with the contact lens solution multiple times a day if I can. This often > helps to soothe the eye and address some infections. You can alternate this > with the antibiotic/steroid cream you were provided. > > If it is burst capillaries, then it may be that his platelet count is low and > there may be some bleeding. The cortisone in the eye cream may help reduce > any inflammation and that may help. > > Good idea to get blood work done and get a baseline, and at the risk of > sounding like endless looped recording, after that, I would try the > Winstrol/Doxycycline treatment, along with Prednisone if the results are not > all within reference ranges. Be sure to ask for a reticulocyte count to be > done, which will help determine if any anemia you may find is regenerative or > non-regenerative. > > At the VERY least, keep them both on Doxycycline, which interferes with viral > reproduction and can hopefully slow down or stop the advancement of the FeLV > virus. > > Amani > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > ROBERT CHAPEL > Sent: May-16-16 2:30 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol > > > I'm new to the list and trying to catch up with some of the > threads...particularly with regard to Winstrol/Doxy combination... Are any > of you actually using this combination currently??... If so, are you > administering it Sub Q, IM or orally?? Also wondering if the pushback from > vets with regard to prescribing it has to do with the fact that it is one of > the more popular anabolics used by body builders and athletes....?? > > Also...... anyone have any information re: Eye Problems in FeLV+ Kitties ( > other than the frequently occurring sequlae to Herpes Virus infection).... > I recently adopted 2 FeLV+ youngsters ( 7 and 9 months) from the shelter > where I volunteer ( couldn't stand the idea of their living their lives in > isolation in a 3x3 enclosure).. I bit off a LOT more than I anticipated as > one has not been fully well since the day I brought him home but, until > recently, he was eating Heartily and playing mightily despite a chronic > URI.... Last week he developed some cloudiness in his L eye lenses and what > appear to be burst capillaries.... The Vet ( I allowed the shelter to pay > for this particular visit as I will go broke if I bring him as often as I > might be inclined.... the cats are uninsurable by all the pet insurance > companies I contacted).... that vet offered little in the way of DX...just > said " sometimes this happens to FeLV+ cats and prescribed Triple Antibiotic > Ocular Ointment with Cortisone and Amoxi 2x daily ( running 103.2 temp)..... > Frankly I think the guy hardly even looked at my guy and I am going to have > to take him elsewhere on my own dime again to get a real DX and Tx > suggestions.( if I go on the shelters dime he is presented as a foster and > only the shelter are privy to detailed explanations and even then very little > as they get a very discounted rate).... This is my first experience with > FeLV and I have been reading vocaciously.... I am not one who is going to > employ heroic measures to keep my guys alive unless they won't cause ANY > discomfort to them... I'm already providing them a much better life than > they might have had and a LOT more love and attention than they ever would > have known..... Still.... his eye looks " angry " and I have no way to tell > if it is causing him pain...... Making an appt. to have blood work done to > get a baseline on his HCT,WBC's and Platelets.... Gums appear to still be red > and his paw pads have not gotten lighter so I am hopeful that he is not > severely anemic.... But have NO idea what might have caused the blood in his > eye..... also there is some clear discharge which I wipe away several times > during the day....... Any thoughts welcome... > > Bob > Warwick NY > > On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 01:00 PM, [email protected] > wrote: > > > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > > [email protected] > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > [email protected] > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > [email protected] > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Amani thoughts for Winstrol ([email protected]) > > 2. Re: Kokonut Felv+ ([email protected]) > > 3. Re: Cat Sanctuary ([email protected]) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 10:55:23 -0500 > > From: To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amani thoughts for Winstrol > > Message-ID: <20160516115523.U40WC.1807.root@pamxwww03-z01> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > GOOD VET! > > > > ---- Rachel Dagner wrote: > >> When I brought Tucker home from work he had an infection on his leg > >> and I took him to get treated, he had a chip so we found out he > >> didn't need shots for six months. When I took him for shots she me if > >> I wanted the felv vaccine because I used to let him go outside too. > >> We tested him first and it came back positive :(. She told me he > >> could live three months or a long normal life there was just no > >> telling. She never even said the word euthanize. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On May 15, 2016, at 5:45 PM, wrote: > >> > >> I really feel blessed because my vet said 2 choices, euthansia or > >> keep Annie, treat her and hope. I would have walked out the door and > >> never returned if he only had one solution. Find another vet. > >> > >> > >> ---- Ardy Robertson wrote: > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> If I can jump in on the website idea, I believe that would help > >>> people, especially people like me who had no experience with FeLV. > >>> Suddenly you are told one of your kitties has FeLV virus, and you > >>> are being told there are no options other than euthanasia. My vets > >>> even wanted me to go home and get my other two cats and bring them > >>> in that day for euthanizing! I said ?no?! If there was a website > >>> that sort of listed a protocol for treating the FeLV crises, that > >>> would be great! One of our vets then offered Interferon and while I > >>> was placing my hopes on that treatment, believing that the vets > >>> wanted Tigger to live and pull out of the crisis he was in, valuable > >>> time was slipping away and Tigg?s blood counts were taking a dive. > >>> They didn?t really explain anything about the blood test results. I > >>> basically had to learn everything from reading online. For instance > >>> I did not know that stress can bring on a crisis. We had brought a > >>> stray into our house, and she was running up behi > > nd Tigger and biting him hard. His stress from that was high. I also > > learned from reading online that while the FeLV virus spreads to other > > cats, it is hardly ever spread to a cat over 11 months of age because > > their immune system can usually defend them from it. That is also how > > I found this group online. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> It was when Amani explained that Winstrol has been shown to turn the > >>> bone marrow back on to producing blood cells, that I decided to take > >>> a chance on it. Then much more time was lost trying to find a way to > >>> get Winstrol, also known as Stanozolol. I found a source in Canada, > >>> but they were not able to ship into the US. I live in Wisconsin, so > >>> I had to find a source in the US. Again, as a novice, I did not > >>> have the information I needed to make any meaningful decisions. I > >>> happen to be computer-literate so I was able to do the searching for > >>> ways to get Winstrol etc., I shudder to think what a loving cat > >>> owner who just doesn?t happen to be able to find things online > >>> easily, would do! So the need for information is critical??both for > >>> cat owners, and eventually to change the minds of the veterinary > >>> community! I hope one day, they will actually SUGGEST it to cat > >>> parents. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> If a website could ever become a reality, I would gladly share > >>> Tigger?s treatment details, along with his blood test results. Even > >>> though we eventually lost him, I feel I was given some additional > >>> time with him ? and it was good quality time with him feeling very > >>> good, and playful most of the time. I also feel he may have pulled > >>> through this particular crisis if I had started this treatment > >>> regime as soon as I knew he was FeLV positive. I could be wrong, but > >>> I think the FeLV virus sometimes sits dormant in the cat, waiting > >>> for some period of stress in the cat?s life, and then it pops up and > >>> attacks in varying ways. If the owner is able to get the cat through > >>> that particular crisis, then I think it sometimes backs off again, > >>> possibly for very long periods, especially if the cat?s stress > >>> levels can be kept low. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Thank you, > >>> > >>> Ardy > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On > >>> Behalf Of Rachel Dagner > >>> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 10:34 AM > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amani thoughts for Winstrol > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I have googled you, you are the only one on here that I can put a > >>> face to a name! Can we post pictures when we send messages? > >>> > >>> > >>> Yes, not all lawyers are bad. Lol I am glad you do something you > >>> believe in and that is fulfilling and helps people. Probably makes > >>> all of the hours worth it. That and you love kitties and help people > >>> on here with theirs when you have so little time tells me you are a > >>> wonderful person with a huge heart and a beautiful soul. > >>> > >>> > >>> A web site would be awesome, somewhere to send people for > >>> information instead of having to start over completely with a new > >>> person. I know there are places where you can do free websites. I > >>> have no idea how to do one. But I am good at researching and > >>> figuring things out, so it's something we could look at. > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > >>> > >>> On May 14, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Amani Oakley > wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Rachel > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I AM working today. I got up late since in fact, I was working until > >>> about 4:30 a.m. That?s one thing about working for myself (with just > >>> my husband as my partner). There is only this single perk I have and > >>> that is that I don?t get up early since I generally work all night. > >>> I figure since I?m the boss, I don?t have to justify my hours to > >>> anyone else! Of course, if I have to go to court for motions or > >>> trials, then I have to get up early like the rest of the world, but > >>> frankly, when I am in court, I generally don?t go to bed at all. > >>> Fun, eh? And to think that one of the reasons I left the field of > >>> Medical Laboratory Technology and decided to be a lawyer was that I > >>> hated having to do midnight shifts. Now, it?s not a ?shift?. I?m > >>> just up ALL night and work all day TOO. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Rachel, what I would love to do is have someone way smarter than me > >>> when it comes to websites, develop a website where we can collect > >>> the information about Winstrol. It is absolutely essential for us to > >>> collect credible objective scientific information if we are going to > >>> convince the vets to stop their ridiculous crusade against Winstrol. > >>> At worst, the drug may end up not being very effective in a > >>> particular case, but it isn?t a demon drug to be avoided at all > >>> costs, and frankly, I suspect that starting the Winstrol sooner > >>> would likely give the best outcome. I think, generally speaking, > >>> that when Winstrol is finally used, the cat is in pretty bad shape, > >>> all else has failed, and we are asking for a miracle. I have a lot > >>> of faith in Winstrol, but I know full well it doesn?t always work. > >>> However, I have used it and gotten amazing results in circumstances > >>> where the vets have told me that there is nothing they have to > >>> offer, and nothing will work. So why not try the Winstrol? I > > simply don?t get the reluctance. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I would love to get Winstrol for everyone and I am trying to keep > >>> track of anyone who lets me know they have used it and how they > >>> obtained it. Unfortunately, often people will not respond with that > >>> information when I ask. Perhaps they suddenly wonder if I am a fed, > >>> posing as a cat-lover to trap unwary online folks, looking to save > >>> their babies. And I wouldn?t want to expose my vet to criticism from > >>> colleagues. I think she is less of a skeptic than most, because I > >>> let her know what I have seen, but she came in mid-way during my > >>> ordeal with Zander. She wasn?t the first vet who diagnosed him and > >>> she never saw how bad he was because by then, I was at the ER > >>> clinic. However, she allowed me to try various medications regimes, > >>> and allowed me to take the weekly blood work while I assessed the > >>> different treatment modalities to determine what was working and > >>> what wasn?t. She saw Zander improve and was extremely impressed, but > >>> you know, once he recovered from what was deemed to be a > > death sentence, and after there was some daylight between the crisis > > and his current excellent condition, vets started to suggest to me > > that maybe it wasn?t FeLV after all. REALLY frustrating. There is no > > way to convince someone who insists on not being convinced ? even with > > weekly lab results in hand and before and after lab results. Anyway, > > all that to say that if push comes to shove, I think my vet believes > > that the Winstrol saved Zander, but if confronted by other vets, I am > > sure she would temper her comments so she doesn?t appear foolish and > > out of step to them. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Ardy was generous with her information about where she was able to > >>> obtain the Winstrol and shared it with everyone, and it seems to me > >>> that this may be the most promising route. The trouble isn?t getting > >>> the Winstrol once you have a prescription ? the problem is getting > >>> that prescription from your vet. Once you have that, you can order > >>> the medication online from a compounding pharmacy and Ardy let us > >>> know about the one she used which shipped to her from another state. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I think each of us who wants to try out the Winstrol, needs to have > >>> a talk with our vets, and explain to them that they are providing > >>> little in the way of options except euthanasia, and a trial of > >>> Winstrol is inexpensive and certainly not painful to the cat, so > >>> rather than simply putting the cat down, why not trying the > >>> Winstrol. Tell them that you understand the risk of liver damage, > >>> and again, given the alternative, you accept and recognize that risk > >>> but it is your understanding that while the liver enzymes often rise > >>> with the use of Winstrol, there is no evidence or scientific trials > >>> linking the use of Winstrol to any lasting liver damage. In the end, > >>> you are in charge. Of course the vet can refuse to provide the > >>> Winstrol and can decide he/she doesn?t want you for a client, so > >>> remain calm and not belligerent if you want to avoid that outcome. I > >>> would like to think that most vets, when faced with a logical, > >>> measured decision to try a specific course of treatment, would a > > ssist even if you don?t have their full support on the chosen > > treatment. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I think that once we have some helpful vet names, these also can be > >>> shared so people know where they can go where they will get the > >>> support they need for their FeLV cats. If anyone is situated near > >>> Toronto, Ontario, Canada, I am happy to provide them with my vet?s > >>> name and location. She is very kind, really cares about my cats, and > >>> respects my input very much, so we get along just fine. I have moved > >>> away from where the clinic is located and now have to travel close > >>> to an hour to take my cats there, but I just feel up to going > >>> through the same battle with another vet right now, so I?ll stick to > >>> the ones who have known me for decades and respect my decisions. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Remember too that I used a number of medications with the Winstrol. > >>> I used prednisone, Winstrol, metoclopramide (Zander seemed to have > >>> problems passing stool for a while and research online shows that > >>> FeLV affects the intestinal walls as well ? metoclopramide was VERY > >>> helpful to get the stool moving regularly and I believe without the > >>> stool sitting still in one area of the intestinal tract, it took > >>> away the environment which encouraged the intestinal walls to be > >>> attacked and become inflamed), and Doxycycline. When I was trying > >>> help Ardy with Tigger, her vet wanted Tigger on Convenia and so as > >>> to ?pick our battles?, I told Ardy to accept the Convenia instead of > >>> the Doxycyclne and we would play it by ear. I knew of course that > >>> antibiotics don?t kill viruses, and I couldn?t remember why > >>> Doxycycline was so important. I figured I had used it for covering > >>> for potential secondary infections. However, after seeing some > >>> blasts showing up on the blood work, I reconsidered and rememb > > ered that Doxycycline actually works to block RNA synthesis, which is > > how the virus reproduces, so while the Winstrol was working to restore > > progenitor cells in the bone marrow to get new blood cells produced, > > the Doxycycline was blocking the virus from continuing to reproduce > > unchecked. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> And Rachel ? I am not ?that? kind of a lawyer, so I can?t defend you > >>> from a drug charge, but I do have contacts across the U.S., so I > >>> promise to get you help should you end up in trouble because of my > >>> preaching about Winstrol:). I am a medical malpractice lawyer - > >>> Google me ? I figured I would put my scientific and medical > >>> knowledge to good use when I left the medical field behind. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> See ? not all lawyers are bad! > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Amani > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On > >>> Behalf Of Rachel Dagner > >>> Sent: May-14-16 7:48 AM > >>> To: [email protected] Subject: [Felvtalk] Amani thoughts > >>> for Winstrol > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Good Morning Amani, > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I hope you are not working today, lawyers need QOL too! > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I have been thinking about Winstrol and how hard it is for people to > >>> get their vets to get on board and how hard it is to find it. So I > >>> was thinking that maybe since you are the go to person for those of > >>> us looking to go this route, you could start a file of those who > >>> have tried it along with blood test results and notes or letters > >>> from vets, along with places we find that make Winstrol. You could > >>> then send the file to people to take with them to their vets. The > >>> more vets that try it and see results the more likely they are to > >>> try it again and share their experience with other vets. > >>> > >>> > >>> My second option would be that I could become a Winstrol kitty drug > >>> dealer, and if I got caught you could defend me. Then we could write > >>> a book about it. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Option one sounds a little more promising though. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Rachel > >>> > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o > >>> rg > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or > >> g > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 11:02:35 -0500 > > From: To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kokonut Felv+ > > Message-ID: <20160516120235.PJPAU.1851.root@pamxwww03-z01> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > RE: stool, I give my guys about 1/4 teaspoon coconut oil every day. > > They ask for it. I don't have as much problem with hairballs since we > > started this. > > > > > > ---- Amani Oakley wrote: > >> Olivia > >> > >> It is a slow process. Once you get a bit of food into Kokonuts, she > >> will hopefully start feeling better. Keep feeding her small amounts > >> at multiple times of the day, if you can. Ask the vet to give her > >> subcutaneous fluids or to show you how to do it at home (t is pretty > >> easy). She is probably dehydrated as well as not eating well. Good > >> for you to get the Pedialyte into her - that is exactly what she > >> needs - electrolytes - but with subcutaneous fluids, there is a much > >> faster uptake of the fluids, body-wide, then if it is given orally. > >> See if her stool is coming out regularly. If not, consider asking the > >> vet for Metoclopromide. As I mentioned in another post, FeLV often > >> negatively impacts the intestinal tract and causes the stool to slow > >> down. The Metoclopromide helps to empty the stomach and increases > >> peristaltic action which moves the stool along and this makes the cat > >> feel a bit better after a meal. > >> > >> I strongly suggest the Winstrol if nothing else but to increase > >> appetite and feeling better. That boost alone will go miles to > >> helping your cat fight this battle. > >> > >> Amani > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > >> Of . . > >> Sent: May-15-16 12:46 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kokonut Felv+ > >> > >> How long has anyone ever syringe fed a cat . How long will it take a > >> cat to feel better weeks ,months? Please share thanks Sent from my > >> iPhone > >> > >>> On May 15, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Rachel Dagner wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Olivia, > >>> So sorry your baby isn't feeling good. Syringe feeding in very > >>> important are you using the ad hills food? I know it's hard to get a > >>> lot of food in and this is high calorie. When I was syringe feeding > >>> Tucker I took him to get fluids under the skin a couple of times and > >>> my vet only charges $14 to do it. My thoughts are that vets treat > >>> the symptoms but sometimes forget that we also need to treat the > >>> underlying problems. Which in our case is felv which causes a poor > >>> immune system. I would say find something to boost the immune > >>> system as well. Since you are syringing you can just add supplements > >>> right to the food. I syringe Tucker a tiny bit of food twice > >>> everyday mixed with his supplements. My suggestion would be if cost > >>> is an issue to try something like Life Gold immunity. It equals out > >>> to about $10 a month, if you have deeper pockets I would do Vitality > >>> Science Advanced Immune Support, both of these companies offer a > >>> ninety day money back guarantee. You can do some research on > >>> products look and the ingredients and find something you feel > >>> comfortable with. I would give supplements not only while sick but > >>> as a maintenance to keep my kitties immune system strong, and > >>> fighting. I hope kokonut feels better soon and starts eating on her > >>> own. Keep us posted! > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > >>>> On May 14, 2016, at 9:56 PM, wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Try baby food, just make sure it has no onion or garlic in it. > >>>> > >>>> ---- Miss Olivia Valencia wrote: > >>>>> My cat is Kokonut 1/yo. She is Felv+. She got ill the other day, > >>>>> she had a fever of 105. took her to vet . The vet gave her > >>>>> metacam,doxycycline & depo medrol Her fever has come down a > >>>>> little. But she hasn't been eating & just been laying in the same > >>>>> spot for the last couple of days. My sister has been syringe > >>>>> feeding & hydrating her & also giving her some pedialyte. Any > >>>>> other recommendations-For food & staying hydrating? frown > >>>>> emoticon has anybody else experienced this? whats to be expected? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> > >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia. > >>>> org > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> > >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o > >>> rg > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or > >> g > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or > >> g > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 11:15:20 -0500 > > From: To: Amy , [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Sanctuary > > Message-ID: <20160516121520.SLLRS.1918.root@pamxwww03-z01> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > AND ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS GET PEOPLE TO NEUTER AND SPAY, THEN THERE > > WOULD BE NO STRAYS. > > > > ---- Amy wrote: > >> Lorrie, > >> That sounds amazing! I do cat rescue in Rochester, NY and we are a > >> no-kill rescue so when we get in leuk pos kitties, we do our best to > >> find places for them to go. We don't euthanize like so many of the > >> groups do. I have positives of my own but I am at capacity in my > >> home. We can keep the FIV positives at our building but not the leuk > >> positives because we are cage free and all of our rooms are full with > >> non-contagious cats. We don't get them in often but am I able to > >> contact you to see if you are able to help if we do get a leuk pos? > >> We always hold them at least 30 days to restest and often 60 or 90 > >> days and we run both tests, the ELISA and the IFA to make sure they > >> aren't going to fight it off first. So far, most of the ones we have > >> taken in have converted after some time. We are always looking for > >> more options on the rare occasion we do get one in that remains > >> positive and tests positive on both the ELISA and IFA. Thanks for > >> helping these kitties!!!! > >> Let me know!Thanks Amy > >> > >> From: Lorrie To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, > >> May 15, 2016 6:56 PM > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Sanctuary > >> > >>> > >>> ? ? Lorrie, > >>> > >>> ? ? Do you have pictures?? I would love to see what you've done! > >>> > >>> ? ? Kat (Mew Jersey) > >> > >> Hi Kat, I was born in Morristown, "Mew" Jersey. > >> > >> > >> I only have photos of the outside of my sanctuary and the grassy lot > >> next door where I have a small, heated, building for ferals, and a > >> big shade tree. I don't think they let us send photos to the group, > >> but if you want to see it I can send it to you. However, outside you > >> just see a two story brick building not the inside. > >> - > >> > >> It's really difficult to take photos of the inside because I can't > >> get back far enough in each room to really show what I've done. > >> - > >> > >> My cat sanctuary is two stories and a basement.? Downstairs are 5 > >> rooms, including two rooms with wire doors for introduction or > >> isolation. My live-in caretaker has her own bedroom, a large kitchen, > >> full bathroom and a half bath.? The cats have access to every room > >> and my caretaker lets them sleep with her. She spoils them rotten. > >> They (cats & caretaker) all have a couch, chairs, and kitty kondos. > >> There is a glass front door and window perches so they can look > >> outside. > >> > >> > >> The cats are NOT in cages, they have the run of the downstairs and > >> upstairs rooms.? The older cats are downstairs, and adoptable young > >> cats and kittens are upstairs which is also designed just for them. > >> Upstairs are 4 large kitty kondos, 2 people chairs, many cozy cat > >> beds, and a wall-walk with two tunnels that goes all around the > >> walls. There are 4 rooms upstairs, and a laundry room. > >> > >> Lorrie > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or > >> g > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 47 > > **************************************** > > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list [email protected] http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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