Bob, Has Tobramycin been tried for the eyes??
Sandy W

-----Original Message----- From: Rachel Dagner
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 10:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol/Doxy Dosages

I think you need to try to syringe feed the way I mentioned to you, no
matter what you do with the other medications (I would maybe give the meds
you have a few more days if it were me). You can't let him them go without
eating for too long. Have you tried the eye wash? I would maybe use this
each time before you do the eye meds to wash out any gunk. You could do this
with the towel method on the counter, just like the syringe feeding.

-----Original Message-----
From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
ROBERT CHAPEL
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 10:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol/Doxy Dosages

After getting a "clean" bill of Health for my Yogi ( ie.. good blood results
and no obvious ills beyond the blood in his eye) a day and a half  later he
is not eating( despite the addition of mirtazapine 1/8 of a 15mg tab )when
he WAS eating before and his eye issue has moved to the right eye as well)
Vet initially offered only ( Anything can happen to FeLV+
cats) and no guidance for any kind of TX Others on the group have suggested
uveitis ( and symptoms are consistent with this)... that said...  I have
never been sure of the dosages being used with winstrol and Doxy....  Those
of you who are using this
protocol: are you giving it according to weight ( X mg per lb) ?   This
would make the most sense to me...
I get the impression that 1mg 2x a day is common...yes??  How about the
Doxy??    Don't know that this vet will go for it but there is no harm in
asking... She's not offering anything beyond " love him and feed him
well"...   Great idea if he would eat...  This was NOT a big problem until
yesterday..AFTER the administration of the appetite Stimulant.. As this is
the only change in his regimen I think it wise to DC the mirtazapine for the
present ( opinions??) Thanks for any input...

Bob
Warwick NY


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Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 22:20:46 -0500
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Thanks Kat ? I did not realize that?.but like you, I was curious :)


Ardy



From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of kat
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 11:24 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Sanctuary


Ardy,


The email you are referencing was TO Lorrie - it was FROM Amy who said
"So far, most of the ones we have taken in have converted after some
time."  But like you, I would like to know what her protocol has been
to be so successful.


Kat (Mew Jersey)

Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 at 11:28 PM
From: "Ardy Robertson"  >
To: 'Amy'  >, [email protected]  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat
Sanctuary

Hi Lorrie ? if you don?t mind me asking, what do you mean by ?most
cats you have taken in have converted after some time?? Does that mean
they no longer have FeLV, and if so, what do you attribute that to?


Thank you,

Ardy

From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Amy
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 10:31 AM
To: [email protected]  ; [email protected]  Subject:
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Sanctuary


Lorrie,


That sounds amazing! I do cat rescue in Rochester, NY and we are a
no-kill rescue so when we get in leuk pos kitties, we do our best to
find places for them to go. We don't euthanize like so many of the
groups do. I have positives of my own but I am at capacity in my home.
We can keep the FIV positives at our building but not the leuk
positives because we are cage free and all of our rooms are full with
non-contagious cats. We don't get them in often but am I able to
contact you to see if you are able to help if we do get a leuk pos? We
always hold them at least 30 days to restest and often 60 or 90 days
and we run both tests, the ELISA and the IFA to make sure they aren't
going to fight it off first. So far, most of the ones we have taken in
have converted after some time. We are always looking for more options
on the rare occasion we do get one in that remains positive and tests
positive on both the ELISA and IFA. Thanks for helping these
kitties!!!!


Let me know!

Thanks Amy


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From: Lorrie To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Sanctuary



   Lorrie,

   Do you have pictures?  I would love to see what you've done!

   Kat (Mew Jersey)

Hi Kat, I was born in Morristown, "Mew" Jersey.


I only have photos of the outside of my sanctuary and the grassy lot
next door where I have a small, heated, building for ferals, and a big
shade tree. I don't think they let us send photos to the group, but if
you want to see it I can send it to you. However, outside you just see
a two story brick building not the inside.
-

It's really difficult to take photos of the inside because I can't get
back far enough in each room to really show what I've done.
-

My cat sanctuary is two stories and a basement.  Downstairs are 5
rooms, including two rooms with wire doors for introduction or
isolation. My live-in caretaker has her own bedroom, a large kitchen,
full bathroom and a half bath.  The cats have access to every room and
my caretaker lets them sleep with her. She spoils them rotten.
They (cats & caretaker) all have a couch, chairs, and kitty kondos.
There is a glass front door and window perches so they can look
outside.


The cats are NOT in cages, they have the run of the downstairs and
upstairs rooms.  The older cats are downstairs, and adoptable young
cats and kittens are upstairs which is also designed just for them.
Upstairs are 4 large kitty kondos, 2 people chairs, many cozy cat
beds, and a wall-walk with two tunnels that goes all around the walls.
There are 4 rooms upstairs, and a laundry room.


Lorrie


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Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 22:22:22 -0500
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Hi Lorrie - I believe that is why I was keeping Tigger on an
antibiotic - in case he started getting something due to his immune
system. I just wish I would have used doxycycline rather than
convenia. Amani can clarify a bit perhaps.
Ardy



-----Original Message-----
From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Lorrie
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 12:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol

Does anyone know (Amani probably will) if an anabolic steroid also
compromises the cat's immune system as steroid like Prednisolone does?

Lorrie


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Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 07:16:26 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: Margo To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol
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Marsha, I'm so sorry.
What this "counselor" lacks is compassion. And any empathy for others.
He does NOT belong in this profession. He needs to go dig ditches,
somewhere far from actual humans.

Common sense doesn't seem to have much to do with this. You are
struggling with grief, anxiety and hopelessness. Basically he told you
to pic yourself up, dust yourself off and start all over again. I'm
surprised he didn't sing it :(

Can you switch "counselors"? What kind of qualifications does this
...man...hold?

I have more, but want you to know that you're not alone...there any
many "common sense"less people in the world, and they make it a much
better place...

Back after rounds

Margo



-----Original Message-----
From: Marsha Sent: May 18, 2016 8:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol

I went to a counselor last month to help me cope with all that is on
my plate.  During the 2nd session (1st one was the intake), he
informed me that I lacked common sense (regarding money and animals).
Then he said he loves animals too, and everybody lacks common sense
in some way - some drink too much, some eat too much, etc.  When I
told him that I wasn't looking for any more cats to take in, he said,
"Good for you!"  All my brain processed was the word "good", which
made his statement come across as highly judgemental.  I was more
anxious and feeling more hopeless after I left.  Two things I was
seeking help for.  I don't need that kind of help.  I am pretty sure
that lacking common sense is not a diagnosis in any way.  And even if
it was, how would you treat it?  Plus I was very depressed and crying
because the last time I saw this counselor was the day before Brock
died, and I still have Noelle to care for (sinus cancer).  I would
like to tell him that HE lacked common sense in saying such things to
someone in the throes of depression.

Marsha


On 5/18/2016 6:30 PM, Amani Oakley wrote:
Rachel

I am just like you. I cry at commercials. Did you ever see the one
where they put a lamp on the curb to be picked up for garbage? Who
ever thought one could cry over the fate of an unloved and abandoned
lamp for goodness sake??

My mom used to ask me why I was so insane to keep on taking these
cats who would just go on to break my heart. I would take it so
hard. But I told her that if the people who love cats so much aren't
going to be the ones who save them and sacrifice for them, it sure
as hell wasn't going to be the people who don't care about them. It
will break your heart Rachel. There is no avoiding it or minimizing
it, but you know you have done a truly wonderful wonderful thing and
you go on to find another unbelievably deserving little sweetheart
who also should know someone's love and devotion, while on this
earth. Frankly, while it kills me to lose my babies, there is
nothing at all more profoundly and intensely painful to me than a
poor being who never saw any love or kindness.

We are all doing our part, in this group, to help these furry
angels. This gives me a sense of great purpose and hope.

Amani


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