Hi Robert

I don’t think it is an option for her to check into a hospital because the 
animals would likely then be confiscated and she is very worried about them. I 
am so impressed with her refusal to hand them over to a shelter. She tried to 
do that on one occasion, but they wanted her to sign a form saying they had 
full authority to do whatever they wanted with the animals, so she refused to 
sign and went home again with her animals.

She is currently in a motel which allows animals, so yes, they are with her 
right now. Her son is also staying with her to help her out and the only income 
coming in is from his part-time employment. I guess that is what they are using 
to feed the animals and to buy some groceries. She told me that a woman had 
called her and offered to buy them some groceries, and she asked instead if the 
woman would be willing to pay for a vet visit for one of her cats, so that was 
what the donor did.

I understand completely where you’re coming from Robert, in terms of spending 
all your money on your cats. With respect to time, what I really need is 
someone to help me locate a good deal (I have done a great deal of searching on 
Kijiji and found a few excellent ones no one has responded to my emails), and 
to inspect the mobile home/small home and to finalize the deal. The longer she 
is in the motel, the more money has to go to the rental rather than the mobile 
home. Several of the ones I saw had “rent to own” options, so ideally, she 
could put any extra money towards that option rather than paying for the motel 
room.

I agree with you that she needs social assistance and I think she was getting 
assistance with her housing until she got evicted early this year. Problem is 
her Form 8 is expiring on Monday and she hasn’t found a place that will accept 
the form and which fits the criteria set out in the Form 8 form. Frankly, 
though, if I can get her into some other form of permanent housing like a 
mobile form, she should be okay.

I also agree with you Robert that we are all very gun-shy about getting 
scammed. I confess that this is why it took me so long to get going on this (in 
addition to my insane work commitments!). I wanted to speak with her, check out 
her story as much as possible, etc. I mean, there’s no way to check things out 
100% of course, but I think she is legit – especially when she does things like 
redirect donor money away from herself and to pay her vet instead.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ROBERT 
CHAPEL
Sent: June-01-16 8:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we help this woman.....




Having a hard time ( as usual) getting this all straight in the digest 
form....ie... where this woman and her cats actually stand at the 
moment....but...

I would suggest, as a possibility,  ( and I can only remember 2 instances when 
I have made this suggestion) that she have herself admitted to the local 
hospital and tell them she has NO where to go upon discharge....though should 
not admit this up front.     The last 11 yrs of my life I worked as a Hospital 
ER and Inpatient Social Worker  and Hospitals ( at least in NYS) are not 
allowed to discharge patients who are homeless and in need of medical services 
post discharge....  This will put a discharge planner on the case who will 
assist with finding a place for her to live.....  Admittedly...   it will not 
be the perfect arrangement but might buy her some time and will definitely be 
better than nothing.....     I could say with assurance if she lived in NYS 
that this would BE a good answer.... SC could well be different....     If I 
could speak with her directly I would know better if this could be an answer 
for her  ( are her animals all still with her at this point??)
I have time I could devote to this but precious little extra money.... my own 
cats are eating up my expendable income....

I cannot tell you how many times I was severely scammed by people doing this 
simply TO get housing..... bout time the secret was out for someone who 
deserves the assistance ( legitimate decent people seldom DO this 
intentionally)....      Just a suggestion....     I'm also wondering if she has 
home health services??  Health Insurance??  Likely has state Medicaid given her 
situation and the Section 8 approval.....   She NEEDS state Social Services 
involved

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