Rachel, I cried too. I am so devastated to hear about it. I hope his spirit visits you soon. Please keep me posted. Feel free to email me offlist, if you'd like to chat. I send you a big hug
Sent from my iPhone > On 07 giu 2016, at 09:53, [email protected] wrote: > > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Tucker (Amani Oakley) > 2. Re: Tucker (Sandy) > 3. Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 26, Issue 22 (Realissa Dekraunti) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 15:39:28 +0000 > From: Amani Oakley <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker > Message-ID: > <E0C1DFB06E10174B9D4AE353A62CECE30166F98C49@OAKLEYSRV.oakley.local> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Rachel > > You're right. We've all been there but it doesn't ever get any easier. I had > tears in my eyes, reading your email and knowing exactly what you are going > through and how broken and heavy your heart feels right now. We all know, > deep inside, that we did a wonderful thing for our little ones - giving them > lots and lots of love and hugs. But right now, you'll be second-guessing > yourself and wondering if you did the right thing. Know that you did, Rachel, > and there was one less lonely, scared, hungry cat because of your commitment > and your caring. > > Amani > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Rachel Dagner > Sent: June-07-16 10:33 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Felvtalk] Tucker > > I lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time breathing due > to the tumor in his chest. It was time, they got me in right away. It was so > very hard to say goodbye. I haven't been able to quit crying since. > It's so unbelievably hard, even knowing that it would happen soon. I miss him > so much. Everything reminds me of him. I am at work luckily alone today, and > can't quit crying. I had him with me at work last week and he was laying on > my desk and purring and sleeping. It's just so hard to believe he is gone. I > sat in the parking lot at my vets for at least an hour with my car door open, > just in case he spirit needed to get inside and come home with me. I know it > will get better, but right now the pain is just unbearable. I know that those > here who have gone through this understand where I am right now. > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 16:17:38 +0000 (UTC) > From: Sandy <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Rachel, I'm so, so sorry :) Life ... > Sandy W > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rachel Dagner" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 10:33:13 AM > Subject: [Felvtalk] Tucker > > I lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time breathing > due to the tumor in his chest. It was time, they got me in right away. It > was so very hard to say goodbye. I haven't been able to quit crying since. > It's so unbelievably hard, even knowing that it would happen soon. I miss > him so much. Everything reminds me of him. I am at work luckily alone > today, and can't quit crying. I had him with me at work last week and he > was laying on my desk and purring and sleeping. It's just so hard to > believe he is gone. I sat in the parking lot at my vets for at least an > hour with my car door open, just in case he spirit needed to get inside > and come home with me. I know it will get better, but right now the pain > is just unbearable. I know that those here who have gone through this > understand where I am right now. > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20160607/6568b1ce/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 09:53:28 -0700 > From: Realissa Dekraunti <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 26, Issue 22 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Amani rocks > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 07 giu 2016, at 08:27, [email protected] wrote: >> >> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: uveitis ([email protected]) >> 2. Re: uveitis ([email protected]) >> 3. Re: uveitis (Ardy Robertson) >> 4. Re: uveitis ([email protected]) >> 5. Tucker (Rachel Dagner) >> 6. Re: both of my cats are FELV positive. What to do now? >> (Rachel Dagner) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 18:24:18 -0500 >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis >> Message-ID: <20160606192418.IXWS5.1444.root@pamxwww02-z01> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> Amani, I am glad we hae you in the group! >> >> >> ---- Amani Oakley <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Bob, I?d be giving the cortisone treatment a try, but because this problem >>> is caused by the FeLV virus, you really have to go after the virus itself. >>> Trying to fight the battle to save the eyes on their own, won?t be enough >>> while the virus is still attacking the body. Try the Winstrol with >>> prednisone and doxycycline, along with the corticol topical treatment. >>> >>> Amani >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>> ROBERT CHAPEL >>> Sent: May-27-16 11:31 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis >>> >>> Wonder if anyone has has any success with treating Uveitis in FeLV >>> cats..... I've had my 10 mo. old guy to two different Vets...One >>> prescribed tribple ABX with Corticosteroid which had no appreciable >>> effect.... the other vet counseled against using Cortisones due to the risk >>> of Corneal Ulcers.... Without treatment my guy is now losing his >>> vision...he has blood in the Anterior Chamber in both eyes and Lens >>> clouding in the right eye..... It is getting VERY troubling when I get >>> different opinions about something so important.... I'm having rather a >>> difficult time sitting by and letting my guy go blind..... The Literature >>> all points to Corticosteroid Drops as the first line treatment.... but >>> this is for the disease as it affects so called " normal " cats..... >>> Which is the lesser of evils with Cortisone Tx in this case......?? >>> >>> Currently following Amani's suggestion from a while ago and rinsing his >>> eyes a few times a day with Contact Lens Solution to keep them from Gunking >>> up.... but..... He IS losing and none of the vets appear at all inclined >>> to do further testing..... Again.... it's like they are saying " Oh >>> isn't it nice that you want to save this sweet FeLV Kitty but, really, >>> don't try TOO hard".... >>> >>> Bob >>> Warwick NY >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 18:28:33 -0500 >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis >> Message-ID: <20160606192833.BTTII.1453.root@pamxwww02-z01> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> Actually, I am glad for so many knowledgeable people in this group who seem >> to know more than most vets around the country. >> >> ---- Amani Oakley <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Bob, I?d be giving the cortisone treatment a try, but because this problem >>> is caused by the FeLV virus, you really have to go after the virus itself. >>> Trying to fight the battle to save the eyes on their own, won?t be enough >>> while the virus is still attacking the body. Try the Winstrol with >>> prednisone and doxycycline, along with the corticol topical treatment. >>> >>> Amani >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>> ROBERT CHAPEL >>> Sent: May-27-16 11:31 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis >>> >>> Wonder if anyone has has any success with treating Uveitis in FeLV >>> cats..... I've had my 10 mo. old guy to two different Vets...One >>> prescribed tribple ABX with Corticosteroid which had no appreciable >>> effect.... the other vet counseled against using Cortisones due to the risk >>> of Corneal Ulcers.... Without treatment my guy is now losing his >>> vision...he has blood in the Anterior Chamber in both eyes and Lens >>> clouding in the right eye..... It is getting VERY troubling when I get >>> different opinions about something so important.... I'm having rather a >>> difficult time sitting by and letting my guy go blind..... The Literature >>> all points to Corticosteroid Drops as the first line treatment.... but >>> this is for the disease as it affects so called " normal " cats..... >>> Which is the lesser of evils with Cortisone Tx in this case......?? >>> >>> Currently following Amani's suggestion from a while ago and rinsing his >>> eyes a few times a day with Contact Lens Solution to keep them from Gunking >>> up.... but..... He IS losing and none of the vets appear at all inclined >>> to do further testing..... Again.... it's like they are saying " Oh >>> isn't it nice that you want to save this sweet FeLV Kitty but, really, >>> don't try TOO hard".... >>> >>> Bob >>> Warwick NY >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 23:33:07 -0500 >> From: "Ardy Robertson" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> On a side note, even though one would certainly never ever want to see >> kitty be blind, we had my dad's cat after my parents passed away, and she >> lived to be 19. Dodsie went blind about the last two years of her life -- >> completely blind. But for some reason it did not hinder her. She adapted. We >> did not really even notice anything other than she went up and down the >> steps on the far right side, so she nearly touched the wall as she went. >> Then she mostly stayed near the outside wall of the room. I would put her >> kitty beds touching the wall where she felt comfortable. She found her >> dishes because they were where they always were. She continued to interact >> with us as if nothing had happened. She came when we called her and would >> lay on our laps and purr etc. As long as she was not in pain, we just let >> her be. We had another cat (that we still have - Peekers) and she was young >> at that time, and they interacted as if nothing was wrong. Then one day in >> 2005 she just went to slee p > p >> eacefully. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> [email protected] >> Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 6:24 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis >> >> Amani, I am glad we hae you in the group! >> >> >> ---- Amani Oakley <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Bob, I?d be giving the cortisone treatment a try, but because this problem >>> is caused by the FeLV virus, you really have to go after the virus itself. >>> Trying to fight the battle to save the eyes on their own, won?t be enough >>> while the virus is still attacking the body. Try the Winstrol with >>> prednisone and doxycycline, along with the corticol topical treatment. >>> >>> Amani >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>> ROBERT CHAPEL >>> Sent: May-27-16 11:31 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis >>> >>> Wonder if anyone has has any success with treating Uveitis in FeLV >>> cats..... I've had my 10 mo. old guy to two different Vets...One >>> prescribed tribple ABX with Corticosteroid which had no appreciable >>> effect.... the other vet counseled against using Cortisones due to the risk >>> of Corneal Ulcers.... Without treatment my guy is now losing his >>> vision...he has blood in the Anterior Chamber in both eyes and Lens >>> clouding in the right eye..... It is getting VERY troubling when I get >>> different opinions about something so important.... I'm having rather a >>> difficult time sitting by and letting my guy go blind..... The Literature >>> all points to Corticosteroid Drops as the first line treatment.... but >>> this is for the disease as it affects so called " normal " cats..... >>> Which is the lesser of evils with Cortisone Tx in this case......?? >>> >>> Currently following Amani's suggestion from a while ago and rinsing his >>> eyes a few times a day with Contact Lens Solution to keep them from Gunking >>> up.... but..... He IS losing and none of the vets appear at all inclined >>> to do further testing..... Again.... it's like they are saying " Oh >>> isn't it nice that you want to save this sweet FeLV Kitty but, really, >>> don't try TOO hard".... >>> >>> Bob >>> Warwick NY >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 8:19:43 -0500 >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis >> Message-ID: <20160607091943.YYXYD.27255.root@pamxwww08-z01> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> A beautiful story! I had a miniture poodle who lost her sight to cataracts. >> We had gotten 2 new cats. One day, we discovered that the cats were bring >> mice for her to "hunt" and when they got out of her sight, they would pat >> them and run them back into her line of sight. They also kept her out of >> the road by bumping into her and guiding her back into the yard. Animals >> are so wonderful. These 2 cats who never knew Pia before, were looking >> after her as though she was part of their family. Pia lived to 19 good >> years, all we had to do is never change the furniture or placement of food >> and water bowls and she never seemed to notice the change in her life. >> >> ---- Ardy Robertson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> On a side note, even though one would certainly never ever want to see >>> kitty be blind, we had my dad's cat after my parents passed away, and she >>> lived to be 19. Dodsie went blind about the last two years of her life -- >>> completely blind. But for some reason it did not hinder her. She adapted. >>> We did not really even notice anything other than she went up and down the >>> steps on the far right side, so she nearly touched the wall as she went. >>> Then she mostly stayed near the outside wall of the room. I would put her >>> kitty beds touching the wall where she felt comfortable. She found her >>> dishes because they were where they always were. She continued to interact >>> with us as if nothing had happened. She came when we called her and would >>> lay on our laps and purr etc. As long as she was not in pain, we just let >>> her be. We had another cat (that we still have - Peekers) and she was young >>> at that time, and they interacted as if nothing was wrong. Then one day in >>> 2005 she just went to sle e > p >> peacefully. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> [email protected] >> Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 6:24 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis >> >> Amani, I am glad we hae you in the group! >> >> >> ---- Amani Oakley <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Bob, I?d be giving the cortisone treatment a try, but because this problem >>> is caused by the FeLV virus, you really have to go after the virus itself. >>> Trying to fight the battle to save the eyes on their own, won?t be enough >>> while the virus is still attacking the body. Try the Winstrol with >>> prednisone and doxycycline, along with the corticol topical treatment. >>> >>> Amani >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>> ROBERT CHAPEL >>> Sent: May-27-16 11:31 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis >>> >>> Wonder if anyone has has any success with treating Uveitis in FeLV >>> cats..... I've had my 10 mo. old guy to two different Vets...One >>> prescribed tribple ABX with Corticosteroid which had no appreciable >>> effect.... the other vet counseled against using Cortisones due to the risk >>> of Corneal Ulcers.... Without treatment my guy is now losing his >>> vision...he has blood in the Anterior Chamber in both eyes and Lens >>> clouding in the right eye..... It is getting VERY troubling when I get >>> different opinions about something so important.... I'm having rather a >>> difficult time sitting by and letting my guy go blind..... The Literature >>> all points to Corticosteroid Drops as the first line treatment.... but >>> this is for the disease as it affects so called " normal " cats..... >>> Which is the lesser of evils with Cortisone Tx in this case......?? >>> >>> Currently following Amani's suggestion from a while ago and rinsing his >>> eyes a few times a day with Contact Lens Solution to keep them from Gunking >>> up.... but..... He IS losing and none of the vets appear at all inclined >>> to do further testing..... Again.... it's like they are saying " Oh >>> isn't it nice that you want to save this sweet FeLV Kitty but, really, >>> don't try TOO hard".... >>> >>> Bob >>> Warwick NY >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 10:33:13 -0400 >> From: Rachel Dagner <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Tucker >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> I lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time breathing >> due to the tumor in his chest. It was time, they got me in right away. It >> was so very hard to say goodbye. I haven't been able to quit crying since. >> It's so unbelievably hard, even knowing that it would happen soon. I miss >> him so much. Everything reminds me of him. I am at work luckily alone >> today, and can't quit crying. I had him with me at work last week and he >> was laying on my desk and purring and sleeping. It's just so hard to >> believe he is gone. I sat in the parking lot at my vets for at least an >> hour with my car door open, just in case he spirit needed to get inside >> and come home with me. I know it will get better, but right now the pain >> is just unbearable. I know that those here who have gone through this >> understand where I am right now. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 11:27:05 -0400 >> From: Rachel Dagner <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] both of my cats are FELV positive. What to do >> now? >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Hi Realissa, >> >> >> >> I am sorry to hear about your babies, the diagnosis is a real heartbreaker, >> I know. If you are interested in a holistic approach to keep them healthy >> there is a really good book called The Nature of Animal Healing by Dr. >> Marin Goldstein. He is known as one of the best integrative vets in the >> world, integrative meaning he uses conventional and holistic remedies for >> his patients. He has cured animals that owners were told were not curable >> or that conventional medicine alone did not work for. Which I think is the >> best kind of vet. His clinic is based out of New York, if I lived there >> and had known about him that is where I would have gone for my baby right >> from the get go, no doubt. He has a section in his book on what he has done >> for FELV kitties to keep them healthy and from developing the bad things >> that can come along for FELV cats. I think the biggest thing I have learned >> about FELV is that we should probably not vaccinate them, especially if >> they are indoor cats. Vaccinations do a number on even a healthy animals >> immune system. He does have suggestions on how to keep them strong if they >> must endure vaccinations due to state laws, and suggests that if you do >> vaccines that you should not do them all at once or in combo doses as this >> is too much for the immune system to handle at one time. There is a very >> real reason they have now* finally* started doing 3 year vaccinations >> instead of yearly, even though Veterinarians have been pushing for it since >> the 90s. The side effects, the sick animals, the cancer that they have >> caused? it is all very scary and with a FELV or immune compromised cats and >> dogs even more so. I hope you can push past the fear, come up with a solid >> game plan to do the best you can for them and then just enjoy them and put >> Felv on the back burner and go on as normal. This is what you have to do, >> and you will, and you will come to terms with the situation and move >> forward. I will pray that your babies stay healthy and happy for many, many >> years to come. >> >> >> >> Rachel >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of >> *Realissa Dekraunti >> *Sent:* Sunday, June 05, 2016 8:51 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] both of my cats are FELV positive. What to do now? >> >> >> >> Hi everybody. Thank you for accepting me in this group. I am just too >> devastated to think straight. I rescued two cats in October and I found out >> two days ago that they are both Felv positive. We did an Elisa test on >> Thursday, and it came back positive, and an IFA that confirmed the positive >> results. I live in LA and I don't know what to do, where to go, if there is >> alternative medicine. I love these two cats more than I could ever imagine >> and it is breaking my heart. Any input, help, direction you could give me, >> would be incredibly appreciated. They are FIV negative but FELV positive. I >> have heard there is a medicine called LTCI but that it is very expensive. I >> am also heard of Virbagen Omega, L Lysin, Interfone. There is so much info >> that I am overwhelmed. >> >> >> >> to add some information. >> >> >> >> Date of birth: May 7, 2015 >> ELISA "snap" test at Animal Wellness Center: June 25, 2015 (age: 7 weeks). >> Results: weak positive for FeLV >> IFA confirming test at Animal Wellness Center: June 30, 2015 (age: 7 weeks, >> 5 days). Results: negative >> ELISA "snap" test at Animal Wellness Center: August 1, 2015 (age: 12 weeks, >> 2 days). Results: weak positive for FeLV >> ELISA in-lab test at Animal Wellness Center (sent to IDEXX): August 13, >> 2015 (age: 14 weeks). 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