Karen....
I'm so sorry that you are having such bad luck with Cole.... I know it's
heartbreaking. Stanazole may hold the most promise ( per Amani's
experiences) if you can get your hands on it in time .... I'm a little
surprised that the Cornell Vet made no mention of transfusion and
recommended Cyproheptadine for appetite stim when the standard now ( as
I understand it) is mirtazapine.....( at least according to my vet...who
prescribed this over Cyp___ for my guy Yogi).... Sometimes it gets
wearying having to second guess Vets all the time with Felv+ Kitties....
there appears to BE no best practices when it comes to treating this
disease.... Seems most vets treat the Sequelae and don't go after the
disease process itself and even then.... they don't appear to be paying
a lot of attention to anemia and the many other methods of raising RBC
count... In another 10 yrs I expect that STEM cell treatment will be
the standard but our problems with our Buddies are happening NOW......
I hope you pick up enough info here to help you now and in the
future.....
Bob
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Thank goodness that the word about Stanazolol is starting to get out
to these vets. This is very heartening to me.
Amani
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
Of Sherri Godschalk
Sent: August-17-16 3:43 PM
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I replied incorrectly to your question on this thread. Bit of amateur.
I am in Fort Wayne, IN
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 2:01 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL > wrote:
Sherrie....
Where are you located?? We have been back and forth SO many times
here about how to get a vet to prescribe Stanazole and here your vet
prescribes it unbidden!!!! At least for a Felv+ cat I'd stay with
this one for a while.... Really hope your Kitty responds..
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From: Karen Harshbarger To: felvtalk Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk
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Amani, I talked to a vet at Cornell U at their consult services today
for a second opinion since things are not going well for Cole. He
throws up almost every night after eating just a little ( tonight he
threw up just in anticipated food-- no food-- because he is so
nausea). He is going to starve to death with interferon and syringe
feeding that has turned into force feeding!
Anyway Cornell U mentioned pednisone too but not winstrol
How did you learn of this and I assume it is available in US? It
took my vet a week to get interferon (that I now read will cause
nausea, so now afraid to start it) , so afraid Cole dies nit have
another week to find winstrol! Cornell U vet recommended every other
day fluids, milk thistle and or denamarin to support liver, cerenia
injection to help with vomiting, cyproheptading to stimulate appetite.
And like i said earlier, prednisone. Also, no supportive research but
go ahead and give interferon that my vet ordered cause some have
success with. I would live ti see the rest of your posts but dont
know how to find. I have to do something different tomorrow than just
force feed and orbax amd interferon or I am certain i will loose Cole
and then probably his 2 brothers will follow from the Stress Because
they are so extremely bonded. Thanks Karen and Cole
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thank you - can never get enough of a good information - especially
information with a good proven track record Sandy W ----- Original
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From: "Amani Oakley" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday,
August 17, 2016 10:27:59 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can't eat
Karen
I am not going to repeat what many others have already read from me,
over and over again in this group.
If you haven?t seen my previous posts, and you want further
information, I shall do my best to dig up my previous posts and
re-post. However, the short answer from me is a recommendation to use
Winstrol (Stanazolol). It is an anabolic steroid, which your vet (a)
may never have heard of or (b) will give you a hard time about giving
it to you. Your vet needs to get it from a compounding pharmacy. I
suggest a dose of 2 mg a day for your cat because there are some very
concerning numbers in the lab results you posted, especially the very
very low platelet results, and low RBC and Haematocrit numbers.
Winstrol will directly help increase the red cell count and
haematocrit. It will also significantly increase appetite. It will
usually start having a positive effect very rapidly.
Don?t wait. Your vet will probably give you the run-around on getting
the Winstrol, and will likely suggest that Winstrol will worsen the
liver enzymes (which are already increased). However, any increase in
liver enzymes is likely to be temporary and they will drop back down
when the Winstrol is discontinued.
Sorry to everyone else for being a broken record.
Amani
From: Felvtalk [ mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org ] On
Behalf Of Karen Harshbarger Sent: August-17-16 5:30 AM To: felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Can't eat
I come to you for suggestions for our Cole. We got Cole as a litter
rescue from our yard We feed the strays and a little very young mother
left them at our door We already had some house cats so built a kennel
to shelter them Outside and began To look for homes for them. Then two
litter kittens showed up and old tom. A no kill shelter took the
littler kittens. They found out one if them tested positive for feline
leukemia. We tested rest of ours and all but the one female tested
positive. So we cleaned out our garage, insulated, heated, air
conditioned and sheltered them there. No matter what we did little Tig
was so sick That he died before he was a yr old. He was such a sweet
little cat that considered everything and anyone a toy--so sad. The
rest tested negative the next two test. We all lived happily for next
3 1/2 years. Until this week Cole stopped eating.
Took him to vet and here is bad part. Tested positive for feline
leukemia again Bun10 (16-3( Alt 294(12-130) Alkp 144(14-111) Tbil
4.2(0.0-0.9) Rbc 4.02 (8.54-12.20) Hct 21.1(30.3-52.3) Hgb
6.8(9.8-16.2) Wbc 2.06(2.87-17.02 Neu 0.50(1.48-10.29) Lym
0.74(0.92-6.88) Plt 39(151-600) Rest was in normal range The vet gave
Cole subcutaneous fluids, polyflex/dexasone injection, b complex
injection, and clavamox drops on last wednesday.
But he cant eat and i am syringe feeding AD prscription Food. First
few days was able to get him to take 2 syringes but then threw up and
have not been able to get him past One syringe since then without him
throwing up. He threw up food three times and phlem or hair. He is
very alert, drinking, urinating 2-4 times a day, no BM until one
little turd today He bathes Self after he eats, shinny healthy looking
hair. Took Cole back today and vet did same as before but We changed
to Orbax instead of clavamox. I was very excited tonight cause he
attempted to eat But only licked gravy of purina Fancy feast., but was
start. Later this evening after syringe feed only 3 ml he threw up
what looked like two meals!! He seems to have a good day, but then has
setback with throwup--- three times he has done that . He has lost a
pound in 6 days!!. So worried cause he cant eat on own and keeps
throwing up.
His brother Ash tested positive again too but his bloodwork is all in
normal range and seems ti be doing fine. His other brother BJ tested
negative and bloodwork all normal range. Vet suggested no treatment
for them. I housed them together and seperated Cole.
I am so worried that we are going to loose Cole because he cant eat
and keeps throwing up syringed food. Also worried about Ash's positive
test for feline leukemia again. Sorry for lenght but thought you wpuld
need all info. Please advise as soon as possible. Thank you from Cole,
his family and I
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