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On Dec 22, 2016 6:36 PM, "ROBERT CHAPEL" <[email protected]> wrote: > I hope this doesn't sound disrespectful... but I'm perplexed at all the > talk of whether or not an animal has or does NOT have the virus at 8, 10 > and 12 years old... If an animal has lived this long it would appear that > he/she has a much milder form of the virus or a variant about which little > is known..... In truth though.... your cats have already defied he odds > and despite the sadness of having them ( potentially) have several years of > life curtailed you will have had them longer than the many Healthy cats I > had a a youngster when it was not uncommon for cats to die from any number > of causes well before they were 10 years old..... If my boys live until 8 > or 10 I will consider it miraculous!!...... The kind of FeLV+ that REALLY > concerns me is the kind that my own boys have.... passed from the Queen.... > established to have moved into their marrow in the first 7 months of their > lives...Symptomatic from the time they were Kittens.... One looking ( yes > there IS a "look" severely affected FeLV+ cats can have) very much like a > cat that simply is not going to last very long.... it is heart wrenching to > hold his little 5.8 lb body and feel all his ribs and backbone despite his > eating heartily.... He is barely a year and one half and has already had > IBD, Uveitis,Melting Corneal Ulcer, Keratitis, Multiple bouts of Rhinitis, > He is 70% blind..... I won't go on... If he weren't not in obvious pain I > would have put him down by now... but... he is a good natured little boy > who still loves his food and his treats and curls up with me to keep warm > because his body weight is so low..... I can't tell you how happy it would > make me to have him show weight gain or be able to play again...( He's been > able to play perhaps one month of the time I've had him and his brother > can't understand why he can't play and still attacks him hoping to have a > partner in his games...... this is not what I expected when I adoped > these boys but I learned quickly...... may really have to foster another > FeLV+ just so the healthier one leaves my disabled one alone..... I've > learned quite a lot about the variants of FeLV since coming to this group > but honestly...... when I adopted these boys I never DREAMED of their > living to 8 years old and it seems quite a lot of people here are > discussing cats in that age range...... I'm having a hard time even > internalizing that as FeLV... Just wondering if there are many in the > group that have cats whose lives are being curtailed at VERY young ages by > this damnable Disease!!! > > > On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 02:18 PM, [email protected] > wrote: > > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinel >> eukemia.org >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Negative IFA test (Corinne Shank) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 19:18:06 +0000 >> From: Corinne Shank To: "[email protected]" Subject: Re: >> [Felvtalk] Negative IFA test >> Message-ID: >> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> I think that there are many unknowns and that the virus can live in many >> forms. I have had my cat for almost 8 years. The last Elisa test on her >> before I took her in, at about 3 months, was negative (after an initial >> positive test). At the time I already had a cat (1.5 yo) who was >> negative. I was assured that she was negative and would not have Felv. >> They are both indoor cats and are not exposed to others. So why after >> having her for so long, does she now test Elisa positive and IFA >> negative? Has the virus been dormant for 8 years? I have researched on >> Internet and it seems that there are many unknowns. >> >> It would have been impossible for me to separate my cats after 8 years >> together and the stress of keeping them apart would have been hard on them >> and me. So they live together and my other cat is fine so far (he is >> vaccinated). >> >> I found the following on the website of the SNap test manufacturer >> about discordant results and found the comment about true status not being >> known to be interesting. >> >> >> this is an ELISA-positive and IFA-negative status. Discordant results may >> be due to the stage of infection, the variability of host responses, or >> technical problems with testing. The status of the cat with discordant >> results may eventually become clear by repeating both tests in 60 d and >> yearly thereafter until the test results agree. Unfortunately, a >> substantial number of these patients have persistently discordant test >> results and the cat?s true status may not be known. Cats with discordant >> test results are best considered as potential sources of infection for >> other cats. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Dec 22, 2016, at 10:45 AM, Amy Glunt > wrote: >> >> If my cat has tested negative on both, is it possible that she could be >> contagious in the future? I would like to get her a younger cat as a >> friend, especially now with her energy levels I think she would definitely >> benefit from having a feline partner. However I am not eager to have >> another cat with anemia and immune related issues. I figure if there's any >> chance of her shedding the virus, it's just not safe to bring another cat >> into the house, and I'm not sure how foolproof the vaccines are against the >> virus. >> >> Amy >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 22, 2016, at 12:05 PM, Margo > wrote: >> >> >> >> With a negative IFA, the cat should have no virus in a position to shed. >> It is either not present, or is sequestered in the bone marrow, and >> undetectable by IFA or Elisa. When a cat is shedding a virus, they are >> contagious. Is that what you mean? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Margo >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >> Sent: Dec 22, 2016 8:12 AM >> To: "'[email protected]'" > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Negative IFA test >> >> I had the same situation but when the IFA is negative, the cat should >> shed the virus after testing negative. They normally retest every 3 >> months for the felv elisa test. The IFA test is 99.9% accurate. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> Corinne Shank >> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:34 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Negative IFA test >> >> Amy, >> >> Your story is similar to mine. I think that there is so much that vets >> don't know about Felv, so it is great to hear from others with their >> situation. When I found out that she had Felv from the Elisa test, her >> blood work was fairly normal and since that time she has gained weight. So >> I think it is wait and see situation. She still likes to wake me up at >> 3:00 am ?, so I think she still feels good. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 21, 2016, at 4:55 PM, Amy Glunt > wrote: >> >> I'm interested in replies to this as well. I have a somewhat similar >> experience which I have been pondering over. My own cat, Gravy, tested >> positive on the Elisa for FeLV in March when we took her in for an ear >> infection and persistent lethargy. A month ago she had both Elisa and IFA >> tests and was negative for both and the vet said that the leukemia must >> have gone dormant in her marrow but that she would still have a suppressed >> immune system and if she gets ill again, the leukemia could possibly flare >> back up. >> Also, I got the news today that after a month on Winstrol and >> prednisolone (we skipped the doxycycline since she was negative) her RBC >> has gone from 16 to 40. She is a whole new cat, it's absolutely incredible, >> and I owe it all to you guys here...my Christmas miracle! >> Sorry to hijack your post Corinne! >> >> Amy >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 21, 2016, at 4:45 PM, Corinne Shank > wrote: >> >> My cat tested positive for Felv a few months ago from an Elisa test. I >> had her tested after she had persistent yeast ear infections and I had read >> that immune suppressed cats were prone to yeast infections. In addition, >> when she was a kitten she tested positive but then tested negative. I was >> told that she had shed the virus and that is why she tested negative. >> She is now 8 years old. >> >> So I put off getting the IFA test as I wanted to see how she did and I >> felt that she probably was infected. I finally took her in to get the test >> and it came back negative. So I know that the virus is not in her bone >> marrow. But what does this mean? The vet said to bring her back in 6 >> months for a snap test to see if she has shed the virus, but is this really >> possible? >> >> Sent from my iPad >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 32, Issue 54 >> **************************************** >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >
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