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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 08:42:51 -0700
From: Gloria To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..
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Sheila, my 2 cents- - for me - it's not just spreading the FeLV to
others, it the autoimmune problem of not being able to fight off
viruses or diseases that they could get from other cats.
I have Buddy in our guest room - in a controlled environment- we
replaced the door with another re-engineered door. The replacement
door bottom panel we replaced with clear plexiglas so he can see the
other cats in the house, and the top panel with a screen door screen
guard panel for air and to get house sounds. He uses the plexiglas as
a drum-especially when he wants attention!
I have spent at least 2 hours with him each night for the last 5
years- have my own easy chair and large screen tv :)
That's the remedy I came up with so he gets plenty of loving and
entertainment- he's probably the healthiest of all the other 14 I have
inside!
?Food: no junk food, both wet and no-grain kibble -that includes a
variety of brands- and fresh water
?Vaccine: wouldn't touch it - I don't use vaccines unless required by
law
?Stress: I keep it as low as possible, that means only vet trips if
life & death- can't afford routine visits because we're living on
retirement funds ?Pray: a lot
Will be praying for Robert too!
-g ??
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 24, 2017, at 5:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
wrote:
I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does
anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about
letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the
regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and
not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has
no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think
he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info
-----Original Message-----
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
Of ROBERT CHAPEL
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..
Hi Sheila...
Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or
expenses).... that is a lot of cats to look after
and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them
fosters???
Bob
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 15:56:06 +0000
From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium"
To: "'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..
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I have the same set up, a door with plexi so he can see the other
animals. He has a bed and tv and 2 big rooms to run around, I just
feel bad that he is alone most of the time until I get home and we
watch TV together for acouple. I am scared of that vaccines b/c of
the dangers I hear about.
-----Original Message-----
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
Of Gloria
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 11:43 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..
Sheila, my 2 cents- - for me - it's not just spreading the FeLV to
others, it the autoimmune problem of not being able to fight off
viruses or diseases that they could get from other cats.
I have Buddy in our guest room - in a controlled environment- we
replaced the door with another re-engineered door. The replacement
door bottom panel we replaced with clear plexiglas so he can see the
other cats in the house, and the top panel with a screen door screen
guard panel for air and to get house sounds. He uses the plexiglas as
a drum-especially when he wants attention!
I have spent at least 2 hours with him each night for the last 5
years- have my own easy chair and large screen tv :)
That's the remedy I came up with so he gets plenty of loving and
entertainment- he's probably the healthiest of all the other 14 I have
inside!
?Food: no junk food, both wet and no-grain kibble -that includes a
variety of brands- and fresh water
?Vaccine: wouldn't touch it - I don't use vaccines unless required by
law
?Stress: I keep it as low as possible, that means only vet trips if
life & death- can't afford routine visits because we're living on
retirement funds ?Pray: a lot
Will be praying for Robert too!
-g ??
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 24, 2017, at 5:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
wrote:
I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does
anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about
letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the
regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and
not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has
no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think
he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info
-----Original Message-----
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
Of ROBERT CHAPEL
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..
Hi Sheila...
Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or
expenses).... that is a lot of cats to look after
and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them
fosters???
Bob
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 16:14:08 +0000 (UTC)
From: Sandy To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..
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It seems to me, each one of us has a different vet - and each vet
seems to have a differing opinion - it's what they "learned" in school
and unless they seek to know more and better info continue with the
same practices and opinions- such as the "yearly" vaccine protocol. I
guess it's like each one has to do for our own health care - be
informed and take charge. And, it's not easy
Sandy ----- Original Message -----
From: "Marlene Snowman" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday,
July 24, 2017 9:46:04 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..
My vet believes so although has made it clear that no vaccine is 100
percent effective and that an older cat with an established immune
system has more chances. Who really knows....
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
wrote:
So you believe the vaccine does work then? I thought about getting it
for all 13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV
separated. Thanks for the info
-----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marlene
Snowman Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..
I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non.
The 7 year old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and
remains negative. The Felv has no visual signs of illness. I maintain
separate litter boxes that get cleaned daily and separate dishes that
are also cleaned daily. They are not affectionate with one another or
groom each other, although they do play together. It warms my heart
to think that the 2 year old is getting quality of life despite the
illness. As my vet said, you have 2 cats and need this to work for
them and my husband and I. So far I've been lucky and I am grateful
that this is going well for them. Knowing what I now know, I'm not
sure I would make the same decision if one would have been sicker at
the onset.
My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.....wresting with
the decision to introduce or not is a tough one.
M
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On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
wrote:
I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does
anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about
letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the
regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and
not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has
no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think he
can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info
-----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT
CHAPEL Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..
Hi Sheila... Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care (
or expenses).... that is a lot of cats to look after and the expense
could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them fosters???
Bob
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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400 From: Pam Doore
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I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her
kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old.
Plus I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end
up adopting her too :). On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown,
Sheila DDS Timonium" < sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my
first FELV cat.
*From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On
Behalf Of *Pam Doore *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM *To:*
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking
in.....
Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol?
On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" <
sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork
every 6 months and I thought it was odd too.
-----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking
in.....
I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested.
i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not
heard anything.
---- Amani Oakley wrote:
It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical
in cats
(and being called into question in humans too).
Amani
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On
Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: July-20-17
10:37 AM To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' Subject: Re:
[Felvtalk] Checking in.....
My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back
great.
High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2
1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time.
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On
Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking
in.....
Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once
again
not getting group mail....
Has there been activity I've missed?? My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert)
is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we
all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll
just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you
have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered
chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster
Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their
directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing
him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have
gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well
controlled.... Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the
most so I could cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on
Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain,
prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via syringe dissolved in
milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting substance... bears
closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor activity) Two other
" alternative " medications ! which I h ave suspended only because
the poor boy screams bloody murder every time I have to give him
something..... with a tumor invading his oral cavity I want to
keep anything PO to a minimum....
Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally)
die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones
buddies are
doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can
do)... Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which
has left him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent
on expanding his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in
anything resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is
enough to make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a
fan of animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it
without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like
them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a
more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_
have to get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that
jerk Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the
Justice I ask you!!!!)...
Bob
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I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the
house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure if
him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat clan
is up to 28 cats. Insane.
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On
Behalf Of Pam Doore Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking
in.....
I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her
kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old.
Plus I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end
up adopting her too :). On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown,
Sheila DDS Timonium" > wrote: No, he said it was no big deal at
all. I just worry. This is my first FELV cat.
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On
Behalf Of Pam Doore Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking
in.....
Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? On
Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" >
wrote: It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get
bloodwork every 6 months and I thought it was odd too.
-----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking
in.....
I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested.
i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not
heard anything.
---- Amani Oakley > wrote:
It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical
in cats (and being called into question in humans too).
Amani
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On
Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: July-20-17
10:37 AM To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' Subject: Re: [Felvtalk]
Checking in.....
My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back
great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is
now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time.
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On
Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....
Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once
again not getting group mail.... Has there been activity I've
missed?? My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the
moment but ( as we all know with such things it could change any
minute...so I'll just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering
if any of you have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone
administered chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed
to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow
their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are
killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to
have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well
controlled.... Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the
most so I could cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on
Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain,
prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via syringe dissolved in
milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting substance... bears
closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor activity) Two other
" alternative " medications !
which I h ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody
murder every time I have to give him something..... with a tumor
invading his oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a
minimum....
Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally)
die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones
buddies are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV
Kitties can do)... Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain
injury which has left him with poor balance... but lately he's
been insistent on expanding his range and even tried running this
AM... Wasn't in anything resembling a straight line but the spirit
in this guy is enough to make you weep... Guess that's part of why
I am such a fan of animals.... they simply do what they have to
and do it without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps
I'd like them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why
ME?? I'm a more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why
did _ I_ have to get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and
there's that jerk Mittens running around all carefree and
happy...where's the Justice I ask you!!!!)...
Bob
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