Thank you, Robert! Till yesterday night, i was more hopeful.
Nori started stanozolol on saturday and i noticed an improvement in her appetite. But last night she didn´t eat, despite looking for food. She went till plate, stir in the food, but with her mouth closed all time. She didn´t open her mouth to seize the grains of cat food. I think her neurological issues are worsening :( Today, i syringed food twice in the morning, gave her some subqs with B12 too. I am really worried because i´ll be at home only at night. Does someone have any option for neurological issues or just prednisolone ? Thank you! Patrícia Em seg, 3 de jun de 2019 às 14:00, ROBERT CHAPEL <[email protected]> escreveu: > Patricia... > I don't have any better advice than is being offered by Amani... Just > wanted to wish you the best with this adorable kitten and cheer you on as > one of the special people with especially big hearts.... Good Luck to both > of you!!! > > Bob from NY > > On June 3, 2019 at 12:44 PM [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > > [email protected] > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > [email protected] > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > [email protected] > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Rescued kitten felv + (Amani Oakley) > > 2. Re: New to Fel-V positive kitty (Kristy) > > 3. Re: New to Fel-V positive kitty (Amani Oakley) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2019 17:43:35 +0000 > > From: Amani Oakley <[email protected]> > > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv + > > Message-ID: > > <E0C1DFB06E10174B9D4AE353A62CECE303A3DA4C4B@OAKLEYSRV.oakley.local > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > Hi Patricia ? I gave all the pills together, morning and evening, except > for the metoclopramide which was given ? or so before meals. The rest I > gave with the meals. I didn?t observe a problem with giving them together. > > > > You might also try baby food to get Nori to eat. Get the pureed kind > (beef or chicken with or without vegetables), so it can be sucked up into a > syringe. If my Zander wasn?t eating (and he wasn?t at the start of the > medication regime), then I would use a syringe to get the baby food into > him. Baby food is easy to digest and has good things in it. I would target > ? say ? five 3 cc syringe-fulls at each feeding. I would boost the number > of syringe-fulls if possible. Eventually, Zander started eating the baby > food on his own, and then I graduated to moist food, and really, anything > he wanted until he put the weight back on. > > > > I had a look at the picture you sent and Nori is adorable. I am crossing > my fingers for you and for Nori. Keep us updated on her progress. > > > > Amani > > > > From: Felvtalk <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > Patricia Oliveira > > Sent: June 1, 2019 12:36 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv + > > > > Hi, Amani! > > > > Thanky you very much for you email! > > > > Nori was discharged from the hospital yesterday night. She is eating > baby dry food. I tried canned but she didn?t accept so weel. > > > > Today i bought other kinds of canned, i'll try them hoping she likes > some one. > > > > Compound pharmacy must delivery stanozolol today. > > > > Are there any precautions regarding medication schedules? Close or far > to doxy, for example? > > > > This is Nori: > https://catsnecropolis.blogspot.com/2019/06/nori-teve-alta.html< > https://catsnecropolis.blogspot.com/2019/06/nori-teve-alta.html?fbclid=IwAR0cXMedtfi73B81pJI7QiYGwRTJf9VJp-JN7S_Tstb0ANeg0Hm4ObtFH_A > > > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > Patr?cia > > > > Em qui, 30 de mai de 2019 ?s 20:52, Amani Oakley < > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> escreveu: > > Sorry Patricia ? after going on and on in my last email, I realized I > hadn?t actually answered your question. I think you can probably use the > stanozolol with the Doxycycline, without the prednisone, but prednisone > itself has properties which help to boost red cell production. Try it out, > keep close tabs on the haematology results and see if you are getting a > good response on just Doxycycline and the Stanozolol. If not, add the > prednisone. You may find that this combination assists with the FIP as > well, as per my previous email. > > > > Amani > > > > From: Felvtalk <[email protected]<mailto: > [email protected]>> On Behalf Of Patricia Oliveira > > Sent: May 30, 2019 12:56 PM > > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv + > > > > Hi from Brazil, > > > > I rescued a very weak, dehydrated, extremely thin kitten. > > > > She's hospitalized now. Her hematocrit was 8, had blood transfusion > which raised hematocrit to 22, now it is 19. Low reticulocyte count. > > She has difficulty walking, which we can not define if it is just > weakness or neurological. Already had a seizure. > > > > She also have changes in her kidneys. It has been tested and is felv + > > > > She is receiving doxy and the hospital vets would like to include > prednisolone. > > > > However, as it is not possible yet to rule out PIF, and the medication I > could use in the case of PIF does not work if the cat received > prednisolone, I am trying to avoid it. > > > > The veterinarian agreed to prescribe stanozolol. > > > > Can it be used without prednisolone, only with doxy she is already > receiving? > > > > Thank you! > > > > Patr?cia > > _______________________________________________ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20190601/c3893ed4/attachment-0001.html > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2019 09:08:15 -0500 > > From: Kristy <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to Fel-V positive kitty > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > Hi Amani! > > > > Thanks for your help! > > > > As far as I know his bloodwork came back normal other than the fever. > > > > I will talk to my vet about the meds you suggested. Unfortunately the > two vets I have taken him haven?t really been forthcoming with treatment > options. > > > > My husband is taking him back to the vet on Friday since we can?t seem > to get the diarrhea/bloating under control. > > > > Have a great day! > > Kristy > > > > > On May 31, 2019, at 9:35 AM, Amani Oakley <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Kristy > > > > > > The advice I repeat to everyone is that the best combination I found > to treat a FeLV cat is with prednisone (prednisolone), Doxycycline and > Stanozolol. I don?t know if you have run blood work to determine the > haematocrit/red cell levels, but when a cat goes into crisis, it is usually > because the red cells are not being replenished by the infected bone marrow > (which normally produces new red cells) and the cat becomes severely > anaemic. Other cell lines in the blood soon follow (white cells and > platelets) because the progenitor cells which produce those blood cell > lines are also found in the infected bone marrow (which is attacked by the > virus). The reticulocyte count, which is a measure of new red cells being > produced by the bone marrow, is very low or even zero (which it was with my > cat). > > > > > > I would not wait until your cat is in crisis to start the treatment. > My kitten was in severe crisis when I stumbled upon this combination > therapy, and it was the only thing that worked to reverse the severe > anaemia. I had tried three other treatments, while doing weekly blood > testing, and none of the other treatments (Interferon, LTCI and > Immunoregulin) budged his results upwards by even a single point, though I > had used each treatment for weeks if not months in looking for an effective > treatment. > > > > > > If I were you, I would get him on Doxycycline rather than, or at least > in addition to the Clavamox. The Doxycycline has been found to interfere > with cell wall production with some viruses. If this were my kitten, I > would get started on the combination of prednisone/stanozolol/doxycycline > right away. You might want to test the blood work to get a baseline first, > but given that your kitten is not currently in crisis, that may not be > entirely necessary. > > > > > > With respect to the intestinal issues, with my FeLV cat, I had > identified that there was intestinal involvement and my research confirmed > that the walls of the intestines can be affected by the virus. In my cat's > case, the intestines were swollen and the stool seemed to sit in there for > a long time. I used metoclopramide (tiny amount 1/4 to 1/5 of a tablet > before each meal) to keep everything moving along, because my cat was > eating and then throwing up. Metoclopramide helps with emptying of stomach > contents and moving stool out of the top 1/3 of the intestines. You might > consider trying the metoclopramide to see if it will help with the bloating > and gas. > > > > > > Amani > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Felvtalk <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > Kristy > > > Sent: May 31, 2019 9:41 AM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [Felvtalk] New to Fel-V positive kitty > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > My husband and I recently took in a Fel-V+ kitty that showed up > outside our house a couple of months ago. We already had 7 other kitties so > we had to keep Fergus (kitty?s name) isolated in the upstairs portion of > our house. > > > > > > He is experiencing bloating, is very gassy, and still has diarrhea > (softer stools) and I was wondering if this is a typical symptom of a > positive kitty. > > > > > > He?s been to the vet and no parasites were found, but he was running a > fever. He is on Clavamox to help with the fever, but other than the > bloating/gas/diarrhea he is a normal kitty. We?ve tried figuring out if he > had an issue or allergy to specific foods, but nothing we?ve done has > changed his bloating/gas/diarrhea. He did have an ultrasound at the vet > visit and there were no masses or obstructions. > > > > > > Is this possibly a symptom of the Fel-V? What sort of stuff should we > be looking for? > > > > > > He?s such a sweet, loving kitty and my husband?s baby! How can we > help this kitty? > > > > > > Thanks for any help you can provide! > > > Kristy > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2019 16:43:47 +0000 > > From: Amani Oakley <[email protected]> > > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to Fel-V positive kitty > > Message-ID: > > <E0C1DFB06E10174B9D4AE353A62CECE303A3DA53D1@OAKLEYSRV.oakley.local > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > Hi Kristy - that's great about the blood work. However, don?t let it > make you complacent. If she tested FeLV positive, and she is such a wee > kitten, with all kinds of other problems, if it were me, I would want to > get ahead of the problem. Also, as I've mentioned, the Stanozolol seems to > be helpful for other conditions, and it also makes them feel better and > improves their appetite and overall outlook on life. > > > > Please let us know how things go. We're all praying for your little > kitten and thank you for having such a good heart. > > > > Amani > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Felvtalk <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Kristy > > Sent: June 3, 2019 10:08 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to Fel-V positive kitty > > > > Hi Amani! > > > > Thanks for your help! > > > > As far as I know his bloodwork came back normal other than the fever. > > > > I will talk to my vet about the meds you suggested. Unfortunately the > two vets I have taken him haven?t really been forthcoming with treatment > options. > > > > My husband is taking him back to the vet on Friday since we can?t seem > to get the diarrhea/bloating under control. > > > > Have a great day! > > Kristy > > > > > On May 31, 2019, at 9:35 AM, Amani Oakley <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Kristy > > > > > > The advice I repeat to everyone is that the best combination I found > to treat a FeLV cat is with prednisone (prednisolone), Doxycycline and > Stanozolol. I don?t know if you have run blood work to determine the > haematocrit/red cell levels, but when a cat goes into crisis, it is usually > because the red cells are not being replenished by the infected bone marrow > (which normally produces new red cells) and the cat becomes severely > anaemic. Other cell lines in the blood soon follow (white cells and > platelets) because the progenitor cells which produce those blood cell > lines are also found in the infected bone marrow (which is attacked by the > virus). The reticulocyte count, which is a measure of new red cells being > produced by the bone marrow, is very low or even zero (which it was with my > cat). > > > > > > I would not wait until your cat is in crisis to start the treatment. > My kitten was in severe crisis when I stumbled upon this combination > therapy, and it was the only thing that worked to reverse the severe > anaemia. I had tried three other treatments, while doing weekly blood > testing, and none of the other treatments (Interferon, LTCI and > Immunoregulin) budged his results upwards by even a single point, though I > had used each treatment for weeks if not months in looking for an effective > treatment. > > > > > > If I were you, I would get him on Doxycycline rather than, or at least > in addition to the Clavamox. The Doxycycline has been found to interfere > with cell wall production with some viruses. If this were my kitten, I > would get started on the combination of prednisone/stanozolol/doxycycline > right away. You might want to test the blood work to get a baseline first, > but given that your kitten is not currently in crisis, that may not be > entirely necessary. > > > > > > With respect to the intestinal issues, with my FeLV cat, I had > identified that there was intestinal involvement and my research confirmed > that the walls of the intestines can be affected by the virus. In my cat's > case, the intestines were swollen and the stool seemed to sit in there for > a long time. I used metoclopramide (tiny amount 1/4 to 1/5 of a tablet > before each meal) to keep everything moving along, because my cat was > eating and then throwing up. Metoclopramide helps with emptying of stomach > contents and moving stool out of the top 1/3 of the intestines. You might > consider trying the metoclopramide to see if it will help with the bloating > and gas. > > > > > > Amani > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Felvtalk <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > Kristy > > > Sent: May 31, 2019 9:41 AM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [Felvtalk] New to Fel-V positive kitty > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > My husband and I recently took in a Fel-V+ kitty that showed up > outside our house a couple of months ago. We already had 7 other kitties so > we had to keep Fergus (kitty?s name) isolated in the upstairs portion of > our house. > > > > > > He is experiencing bloating, is very gassy, and still has diarrhea > (softer stools) and I was wondering if this is a typical symptom of a > positive kitty. > > > > > > He?s been to the vet and no parasites were found, but he was running a > fever. He is on Clavamox to help with the fever, but other than the > bloating/gas/diarrhea he is a normal kitty. We?ve tried figuring out if he > had an issue or allergy to specific foods, but nothing we?ve done has > changed his bloating/gas/diarrhea. He did have an ultrasound at the vet > visit and there were no masses or obstructions. > > > > > > Is this possibly a symptom of the Fel-V? What sort of stuff should we > be looking for? > > > > > > He?s such a sweet, loving kitty and my husband?s baby! How can we > help this kitty? > > > > > > Thanks for any help you can provide! > > > Kristy > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 2 > > *************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >
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