I can't imagine anyone working harder to save a kittens life than you have 
Patricia.... I'm sure we are ALL so sorry that it was not successful... FeLV is 
such a terrible disease and your poor little girl has so many complications...
Bob

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>     Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 10:55:23 -0400
>     From: Pam Doore <thyme2s...@gmail.com mailto:thyme2s...@gmail.com >
>     To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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>     You have my deepest sympathy Patricia! I am so so sorry!
> 
>     ~~@~~~~~@~~~~~@~~~~~@~~~~~@~~~~
> 
>     *Christ beside me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ within me,
>     Christ beneath me, Christ above me. ? **St. Patrick*
> 
> 
> 
>     On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 10:34 AM Patricia Oliveira 
> <cinzaeamar...@gmail.com mailto:cinzaeamar...@gmail.com >
>     wrote:
> 
>         > > Yesterday hospital called me saying Nori could come home. I went 
> there
> >         after work and, while i waited for prescriptions, she started a 
> > seizure.
> > 
> >     > 
>         > > Vet medicated her so that seizure didn?t complete (diazepam and 
> mannitol).
> > 
> >     > 
>         > > I stayed with her sometime, talked to her but i felt it was a 
> farewell.
> > 
> >     > 
>         > > When i arrive at home, vet called me to say Nori had a 
> cardiopulmonary
> >         arrest. They reanimated her but it could happen again.
> > 
> >     > 
>         > > Less then 30 minutes later, they called me again to say Nori had 
> passed
> >         away.
> > 
> >     > 
>         > > As always happens here, when a cat has seizures, brazilian 
> veterinarians
> >         says it is fip.
> > 
> >     > 
>         > > I don?t know what she really had, i am very sorrow for didn?t 
> bring her
> >         home on sunday, when she was better. At least, she would have had 
> > one more
> >         day at home, with sun bath and love.
> > 
> >     > 
>         > > I want to thank all of you. You were the best support i could 
> find for
> >         Nori.
> > 
> >     > 
>         > > Thank you very much.
> > 
> >     > >
> 
>         > > Patr?cia
> > 
> >     > 
>         > > Em ter, 11 de jun de 2019 ?s 00:22, Amani Oakley 
> <aoak...@oakleylegal.com mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com >
> >         escreveu:
> > 
> >     > >> We?re all pulling for Nori.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Amani
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> *From:* Felvtalk <felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > * On Behalf Of *Ardy
>     >> Robertson
>     >> *Sent:* June 10, 2019 11:21 PM
>     >> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>     >> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Hello all ? I?m following Nori?s progress and please know, I?m keeping
>     >> her in my thoughts and prayers too, hoping the 
> Stanizolol/Doxy/Prednisolone
>     >> combo works for her. She has chosen her owners well, thank you for 
> taking
>     >> such good care of her. And thanks Amani for the good advice as always.
>     >>
>     >> Ardy
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> *From:* Felvtalk <felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > *On Behalf Of *Amani
>     >> Oakley
>     >> *Sent:* Saturday, June 8, 2019 9:23 PM
>     >> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>     >> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> One option is to ask your vet to show you how to give her subcutaneous
>     >> fluids, which I do all the time for my cats if needed. However, for 
> now, it
>     >> makes sense to leave her there I guess. I presume they are warming the 
> IV
>     >> fluids too, because again, with such a small kitten, it wouldn?t take 
> much
>     >> to chill her if the fluids are at room temperature or colder.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> I guess it?s just me. I am pretty adamant about taking home my cats
>     >> whenever possible, but I understand that Nori sounds like she needs 
> some
>     >> extra help. I just find that the cats respond far better to personal
>     >> cuddling and love, and this makes them feel better, eat more, etc.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Hopefully, she will feel better tomorrow.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> I?m crossing my fingers for you and Nori.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Amani
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> *From:* Felvtalk <felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > *On Behalf Of *Patricia
>     >> Oliveira
>     >> *Sent:* June 8, 2019 9:53 PM
>     >> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>     >> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> She has fluids IV all the time and replenishment of potassium. Receives
>     >> external heating too.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> They monitor pressure (low sometimes), oxygenation, temperature and 
> heart
>     >> rate several times a day.
>     >>
>     >> I wish she could come home soon but she has been dehydrated even with
>     >> fluids IV. I don?t know if it is safe to bring her now.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Em s?b, 8 de jun de 2019 ?s 22:03, Amani Oakley 
> <aoak...@oakleylegal.com mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com >
>     >> escreveu:
>     >>
>     >> Patricia
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> I agree with you that it is too early to tell, but for sure it is good
>     >> news that the haematocrit is moving in the right direction. Very good 
> news
>     >> on the rosy gingiva.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Rouleaux is likely only due to the transfusion. She appears to have 
> had a
>     >> bit of transfusion reaction, so the cells may be sticking to one 
> another as
>     >> a result. (Red cells in Rouleaux formation means that the look like a 
> stack
>     >> of coins ? one on top of the other. In humans, that presentation is
>     >> consistent with multiple myeloma. I don?t think it means anything 
> right now
>     >> other than the new red cells may be reacting a bit with her own cells).
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> I think she is working through the transfusion reaction, so that is
>     >> likely why she is sleeping because you said that immediately after the
>     >> transfusion, she was active and eating on her own.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Low platelets are consistent with the FeLV presentation and the impact 
> on
>     >> the bone marrow. Hopefully, the Stanozolol will help. I seem to recall 
> that
>     >> with my Zander, I had the red cell numbers recover first, before the
>     >> platelets recovered.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> I presume they have her on a heating pad to keep her body temperature 
> up.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> I suspect it might be premature to look at the neurology right now. She
>     >> is working through a lot, and is a tiny kitten. She needs to be given 
> time
>     >> to recover from the transfusion reaction, and to allow the good food 
> and
>     >> medication to start to work. I don?t know how a neurological diagnosis
>     >> could help you now, and one would expect the neurologist will have a
>     >> difficult time seeing a true neurological deficit, with all the rest 
> of the
>     >> stuff happening.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> I would also suggest that at some point, it is better for her to be 
> with
>     >> you at home. If they are not giving her anything like fluids, you might
>     >> consider taking her home with you. I know with Zander, he reacted most
>     >> strongly when I was there with him. I could get him to play a little 
> bit
>     >> and that made him feel better, and of course, lots of cuddles and 
> kisses.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Amani
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> *From:* Felvtalk <felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > *On Behalf Of *Patricia
>     >> Oliveira
>     >> *Sent:* June 8, 2019 8:52 PM
>     >> *To:* Sandra Wachtstetter <swacht1...@comcast.net 
> mailto:swacht1...@comcast.net >;
>     >> felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>     >> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Thank you, Sandra :)
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> I visited Nori today. The hospital is in another city so I can't go 
> there
>     >> every day.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> She is a rosy gingiva, but continues to sleep most of the time and 
> with a
>     >> low temperature. One of the veterinarians there thinks that 
> temperature is
>     >> lower because of malnutrition, she has almost no lean mass and no fat.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Nori will go through the evaluation of a neurologist tomorrow. Some
>     >> hypotheses raised for this prostration are neurological, including a
>     >> possible hypoxia before the first transfusion when her hematocrit was
>     >> really low.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Her blood work today is 30% hematocrit, the higher till now! So i think
>     >> red cells aren?t being destroyed anymore, is it right or is it early to
>     >> know?
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Some red cells in Rouleaux. Leukocytes are still high (> 26.000), low
>     >> platelets for the first time (92.000).
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Nori had an echocardiogram today too and it is ok.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Thank you!
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Patr?cia
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Em s?b, 8 de jun de 2019 ?s 11:40, Sandra Wachtstetter <
>     >> swacht1...@comcast.net mailto:swacht1...@comcast.net > escreveu:
>     >>
>     >> Hello Patricia, you may already be doing this - but if not, please 
> take a
>     >> copy of Amani's conversations for the vet to read - may help.
>     >>
>     >> Good luck - don't give up!!
>     >>
>     >> Sandt W
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> On June 7, 2019 at 9:55 PM Patricia Oliveira <cinzaeamar...@gmail.com 
> mailto:cinzaeamar...@gmail.com >
>     >> wrote:
>     >>
>     >> Nori did not want to eat by herself so they are syringing food. They
>     >> started another medication for nausea, although she does not vomit, 
> they
>     >> think that may be why she does not eat.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Blood work showed changes in neutrophils (bizarre core?), veternary 
> says
>     >> it can be from leukemia.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> The result of this transfusion was not as good as the other time :(
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> i?ll talk to veterinary tomorrow morning again.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> thank you!
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Patr?cia
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Em sex, 7 de jun de 2019 ?s 16:13, Amani Oakley < 
> aoak...@oakleylegal.com mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com >
>     >> escreveu:
>     >>
>     >> Still sounds more like a transfusion reaction than anything with the 
> meds.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Hang in there. See what the afternoon labs show.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Amani
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> *From:* Felvtalk <felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > *On Behalf Of *Patricia
>     >> Oliveira
>     >> *Sent:* June 7, 2019 1:44 PM
>     >> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>     >> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Hi, Amani
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Nori is receiving doxy+prenisolone+stanazolol even in the hospital.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> I know it can be a reaction but i thought higher dose of prednisolone
>     >> would prevent hemolysis.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> I also know it's normal for part of the red blood cells to be cleared
>     >> right after the transfusion, but i don?t remember if it was icteric 
> plasma
>     >> on last one.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> I was hopefull she would come back home tomorrow, now i don?t know if 
> it
>     >> will be possible.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Today she must have am echocardiogram too because x-ray showed an
>     >> enlarged heart.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Thank you!
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Em sex, 7 de jun de 2019 ?s 14:18, Amani Oakley 
> <aoak...@oakleylegal.com mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com >
>     >> escreveu:
>     >>
>     >> Hi Patricia
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> The Stanozolol often has a side-effect of elevating liver enzymes, 
> though
>     >> I cannot remember if it also increased bilirubin (which would be what 
> would
>     >> cause the icteric observation of the plasma). However, hang in there. 
> If it
>     >> is the Stanozolol, my experience is that the liver enzymes drop right 
> back
>     >> to normal, shortly after it is discontinued, and there is no lasting 
> damage
>     >> to the liver. For now, what you have described (low temp and slightly 
> lower
>     >> heart rate) seems more likely to be related to the transfusion itself,
>     >> rather than anything else going on.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> It is also possible that with the additional transfusion, there is a
>     >> higher than normal red cell destruction going on, which would be 
> another
>     >> explanation for the increased icterus in the blood (which will also 
> show as
>     >> an increase in bilirubin). Elevated bilirubin can often be caused by a
>     >> reaction to a blood transfusion. If the high bilirubin is the indirect 
> or
>     >> the unconjugated portion, it is related to red cell break down. The 
> direct
>     >> bilirubin (conjugated portion) is related to liver function. The lab
>     >> results are usually broken down to Total bilirubin and Direct 
> bilirubin.
>     >> The indirect portion is obtained by subtracting the direct amount from 
> the
>     >> total amount.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> I myself went through the pressure of the vets wanting me to 
> discontinue
>     >> the Stanozolol because of abnormal liver enzymes. My logic was that 
> there
>     >> was nothing else. If I discontinued the Stanozolol, my cat would die,
>     >> period. I continued and found that in the end, the liver enzymes 
> normalized
>     >> on their own, even though I had Zander on almost continuous Stanozolol 
> for
>     >> close to two years.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> I know that you know that you are only temporarily helping Nori with
>     >> blood transfusions, and the virus is still attacking cells, etc. In my
>     >> opinion ? and mine alone ? my experience and research leads me to the
>     >> conclusion that the combination of Doxycycline/Prednisone/Stanozolol 
> worked
>     >> to not only boost the red cell production, but I believe that the
>     >> Doxycyline assisted in keeping the viruses from properly reproducing.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> However, anticipate that when the vet gets back the second set of blood
>     >> work, she may well try to tell you to discontinue the Stanozolol.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Amani
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> *From:* Felvtalk <felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > *On Behalf Of *Patricia
>     >> Oliveira
>     >> *Sent:* June 7, 2019 12:53 PM
>     >> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>     >> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Hi, Amani!
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Nori got another transfusion last night, hematocrit was 11.9 before it.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Today morning, i talk to the hospital's veterinarian, she said 
> hematocrit
>     >> went to 29 and Nori was fine, all normal parameters and eating by 
> herself
>     >> again.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> But plasma was intensely icteric. I think this means red cells being
>     >> destroyed, isn't it?
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> About one hour ago, veterinarian said Nori was with low temperature and
>     >> heart rate slightly lower than normal. She was waiting the new blood 
> work.
>     >> In the morning, it was done only hematocrit, not complete blood work.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> i am worried again.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Thank you,
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Patr?cia
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Em ter, 4 de jun de 2019 ?s 23:46, Amani Oakley 
> <aoak...@oakleylegal.com mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com >
>     >> escreveu:
>     >>
>     >> I would be leery of the going the route suggested by the vet at this
>     >> juncture. I seriously seriously doubt if the erythropoietin will help. 
> See
>     >> my earlier where I explain why.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Amani
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> *From:* Felvtalk <felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > *On Behalf Of *Patricia
>     >> Oliveira
>     >> *Sent:* June 4, 2019 8:53 PM
>     >> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>     >> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Hi, Lorraine
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Veterinary wants to increase prednisolone to immunosuppressive dose and
>     >> add erythropoietin. She thinks it is immune-mediated anemia and
>     >> not mycoplasma.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Nori is receiving 1,2 mg prednisolone, twice a day. She weighs only 1
>     >> kg.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> We did x-ray today too. No visible tumor but we found a
>     >> possible cardiopathy ("Increased globular-looking heart silhouette").
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> :(
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Em ter, 4 de jun de 2019 ?s 20:50, Lorraine Johnston <
>     >> johnston1...@comcast.net mailto:johnston1...@comcast.net > escreveu:
>     >>
>     >> Patricia,
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> I would go with the transfusion and also start erythropoietin.
>     >> Stanozolol is supposed to stimulate erythropoietin production, but she
>     >> might need a boost of the ready-made drug just to keep her alive until 
> then.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> - Lorraine
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> "Sometimes it is the people no one can imagine anything of who do the
>     >> things no one can imagine." - Alan Turing
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org ] *On Behalf
>     >> Of *Patricia Oliveira
>     >> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 4, 2019 6:34 PM
>     >> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>     >> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Hi,
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> We did another blood work today, her hematocrit is 13% now :(
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> She is very sleepy but responsive when i talk to her.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> I don?t know if i can wait some more days to see if stanozolol is
>     >> working. Or maybe it would be better get another transfusion right now.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Today, vet talk about erythropoietin. Do you know if it can be used 
> with
>     >> stanozolol?
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Thank you,
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Patr?cia
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Em s?b, 1 de jun de 2019 ?s 14:44, Amani Oakley 
> <aoak...@oakleylegal.com mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com >
>     >> escreveu:
>     >>
>     >> Hi Patricia ? I gave all the pills together, morning and evening, 
> except
>     >> for the metoclopramide which was given ? or so before meals. The rest I
>     >> gave with the meals. I didn?t observe a problem with giving them 
> together.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> You might also try baby food to get Nori to eat. Get the pureed kind
>     >> (beef or chicken with or without vegetables), so it can be sucked up 
> into a
>     >> syringe. If my Zander wasn?t eating (and he wasn?t at the start of the
>     >> medication regime), then I would use a syringe to get the baby food 
> into
>     >> him. Baby food is easy to digest and has good things in it. I would 
> target
>     >> ? say ? five 3 cc syringe-fulls at each feeding. I would boost the 
> number
>     >> of syringe-fulls if possible. Eventually, Zander started eating the 
> baby
>     >> food on his own, and then I graduated to moist food, and really, 
> anything
>     >> he wanted until he put the weight back on.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> I had a look at the picture you sent and Nori is adorable. I am 
> crossing
>     >> my fingers for you and for Nori. Keep us updated on her progress.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Amani
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> *From:* Felvtalk <felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > *On Behalf Of *Patricia
>     >> Oliveira
>     >> *Sent:* June 1, 2019 12:36 PM
>     >> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>     >> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Hi, Amani!
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Thanky you very much for you email!
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Nori was discharged from the hospital yesterday night. She is eating 
> baby
>     >> dry food. I tried canned but she didn?t accept so weel.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Today i bought other kinds of canned, i'll try them hoping she likes 
> some
>     >> one.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Compound pharmacy must delivery stanozolol today.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Are there any precautions regarding medication schedules? Close or far 
> to
>     >> doxy, for example?
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> This is Nori:
>     >> https://catsnecropolis.blogspot.com/2019/06/nori-teve-alta.html
>     >> 
> <https://catsnecropolis.blogspot.com/2019/06/nori-teve-alta.html?fbclid=IwAR0cXMedtfi73B81pJI7QiYGwRTJf9VJp-JN7S_Tstb0ANeg0Hm4ObtFH_A>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Thank you!
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Patr?cia
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Em qui, 30 de mai de 2019 ?s 20:52, Amani Oakley 
> <aoak...@oakleylegal.com mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com >
>     >> escreveu:
>     >>
>     >> Sorry Patricia ? after going on and on in my last email, I realized I
>     >> hadn?t actually answered your question. I think you can probably use 
> the
>     >> stanozolol with the Doxycycline, without the prednisone, but prednisone
>     >> itself has properties which help to boost red cell production. Try it 
> out,
>     >> keep close tabs on the haematology results and see if you are getting a
>     >> good response on just Doxycycline and the Stanozolol. If not, add the
>     >> prednisone. You may find that this combination assists with the FIP as
>     >> well, as per my previous email.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Amani
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> *From:* Felvtalk <felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > *On Behalf Of *Patricia
>     >> Oliveira
>     >> *Sent:* May 30, 2019 12:56 PM
>     >> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>     >> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Hi from Brazil,
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> I rescued a very weak, dehydrated, extremely thin kitten.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> She's hospitalized now. Her hematocrit was 8, had blood transfusion 
> which
>     >> raised hematocrit to 22, now it is 19. Low reticulocyte count.
>     >>
>     >> She has difficulty walking, which we can not define if it is just
>     >> weakness or neurological. Already had a seizure.
>     >>
>     >> She also have changes in her kidneys. It has been tested and is felv +
>     >>
>     >> She is receiving doxy and the hospital vets would like to include
>     >> prednisolone.
>     >>
>     >> However, as it is not possible yet to rule out PIF, and the medication 
> I
>     >> could use in the case of PIF does not work if the cat received
>     >> prednisolone, I am trying to avoid it.
>     >>
>     >> The veterinarian agreed to prescribe stanozolol.
>     >>
>     >> Can it be used without prednisolone, only with doxy she is already
>     >> receiving?
>     >>
>     >> Thank you!
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Patr?cia
>     >>
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