Thanks, thanks, thanks, Julie!!!  I have been to the home page alot, but
(stupid me) never noticed the archives-just went there; not looking for
anything in particular, just nice to know its there.  So great!!

(you know,I might just mention this to all of you)--Sammy, who is 10 and
felv+, has a little area on his back about 1 and 1/2 inches long by a 1/2
inch wide, where the hair has thinned out and I can see gray skin
underneath. He is a sealpoint siamese whose fur turned white when he was
acutely ill(yes!) and then gradually turned back a nice siamese brown. The
area is not flaky, scabby,reddened, growing any bigger, nor does Sam lick it
or try to reach it to scratch. It is just THERE.About a month. Delilah, his
11 year old Mom, doesn't have any such areas; I don't have ringworm, either.
I take the kitties out in the backyard under strict supervision for about an
hour a day. I printed out a good article on ringworm......... I will have to
ask the vet to make a housecall, as the stress of going in a carrier in the
car would probably cause Sam to come out of remission; he freaks out so
badly.  Anyhow, it is time to draw a blood panel to see where we are. Kevin,
my vet, has to sedate Sam in order to do this and anything else invasive. I
know that you can take hair samples and put under a scope to check for
organisms......... Any other thoughts, you'all ???????????  dry skin?  what
could it be?

Also, it is time for Delilah to get her 3 year rabies vaccine. She is felv-.
Is it really necessary? Sam gets no vaccines.   Helene



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Hi Helene,

Sure thing!  Go to www.felineleukemia.org homepage:


 Feline Leukemia Support
                             Information and Treatments to help FeLV+ cats.


There's a bar right underneath (can't copy it) that says:

HOME       TEXT ONLY        FELV FUND      ARCHIVES


In the center of the page is this:

Search the FeLVTalk Archive

click on it, and it will bring up this:

Choose which time period of the archives you'd like to search:

                          Archives- 1/98 through 6/98 (Temporarily
Unavailable
                                    Archives- 7/98 through 1/99
                                    Archives- 2/99 through 9/99
                                   Archives- 10/99 to the present

I ususally go with the 10/99 to the present and if I don't find hits then
select other periods.  Also, on the prior page, where you click on the
search, the archives are listed by month from 1998-2000, so if you happen
to know what you're looking for, you can click right there.

Once you've selected the period you want, it's like any other search
engine, just put in the info you're looking for and click away!

If you have any problems, let me know and I'll help you out!

Thanks to all who maintain the archives; what a fantastic resource!

Julie




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Julie; that was such a wonderful and informative letter you sent to Jenna,
Hank, and Sherryl.  I have nothing to add, except that  Heinz    has
expanded its baby meats to include ham, turkey, and a couple more.  No
onions listed in ingredients. Also try small amounts of chunk light
tuna(People)(in oil for added fat) or water. Interferon is a must, as are
fluids!!!!  Julie, as long as I have been on this list, I have never gone
to
the archives!  Can you direct me???    Helene

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Hi Jenna, Hank, and Sherryl,

I'm sorry you are going thru this with Skunk and Serra, but I'm glad you
found us.  It sounds like both cats could benefit from the liver shake; you
can find the recipe by searching through the archives.  You can also try
giving them just plain raw chicken liver; when Chappy could not eat
anything else, he would eat that. Also, ask your vets about starting them
on Interferon immediately.  Vitamin C is helpful, as is George's (the brand
name; you can purchase at health food stores) aloe vera juice; you just add
to water or give it by syringe.  If they are dehydrated, a course of fluids
is a must; you can tell by pulling up the skin at the scruff of their neck
into a 'tent'; a hydrated cat will have the skin quickly fall back into
place and smooth out.  A dehydrated cat will have the 'tented' skin kind of
stay in that shape for a few seconds and slowly fall back down against the
body.

Another good food option is baby food; get Gerber or Beechnut 'Chicken and
Broth', check the label, you don't want anything with onion powder as that
will contribute to anemia.  The foods mentioned are just pureed chicken and
water.  Also, distilled water is a good choice for an immune-compromised
cat; there will be absolutely no bacteria and it is also devoid of minerals
that could put a strain on the kidneys (these babies need everything easy
on the body).

I don't want to give you false hope; sometimes you reach the point where it
is time to let them go because you truly have exhausted all options.  You
all sound very committed to your pets and I think you're wonderful for not
following the PTS advice without TRYING something!  There are cats who have
rallied and overcome these crisises.

You are all in my thoughts and prayers and I send you hugs and healing
vibes.  Also, anemic cats need the healing energy of the colors red and
orange according to an herbalist I consulted for Chappy.  Can't hurt, might
help.  Buy a red towel for them to lie on and love, love, love them. Take
care of yourselves and know you are not alone.

Julie





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This sounds just like my cat Serendipity (Serra).  She is barely a year
old.  She was diagnosed last week and and the vet was also suggesting
putting her to sleep if she seemed to be suffering.  She seemed to rally a
couple of days ago and I was forcing her to eat. Now she seems more
lethargic than usual and her glowing eyes are sunken.  Please let me know
what you find that works for Skunk and I will try it with Serra. Good Luck!
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      Hi!  I'm new to this list, just found it.


      We have a very sick 3-year old tom cat, name is Skunk.  The vet told
      us yesterday that he was very anemic, had FIV and FELV, and had only
      days to live.  She wanted to put him to sleep, but we just could not
      do that.  Right this minute he is laying on our bed, barely
      breathing.  He has been like this for over 24 hours.  Is there
      anything we can do to make him more comfortable?  Does anyone know of
      anyone treatment that we might try?  The vet had given up, maybe we
      should do so, too.  But he still purrs when I pet him and it is
      tearing us up to see him like this.


      Any thoughts are appreciated!


      Hank and Sherryl in Indy






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