I, too, thought I had a good scruff hold on Rosita but she turned out to be Teflon!  What ensued was a chase around the house with my husband and I just trying to get her contained in ANY area, to try to get her crated.  After we all ran around the house for about 15 minutes (under the bed, the sofa, etc.), she let me get her out from under a desk and then she practically leapt into the carrier I was trying to put her in to begin with.  Guess she thought I needed an aerobic workout yesterday morning! 

Thought you all might enjoy some comic relief.

Allison

-------------- Original message from Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: --------------

> Take heart Del, sometimes experiences like the one you describe helps
> them to see that no matter how scary it gets, they still don't get hurt
> by us. I'm assuming you didn't take a swing at her afterward :) Toss
> her lots of small portioned people food treats and half ignore her,
> she'll soon see how lucky she is to have ended up in your care. Put
> some peroxide on that cut!
> Nina
>
> Del Daniels wrote:
>
> > Well, it sure doesn't work when kitty is facing me ... I have the arm
> > to prove it. Emily, semi-feral, had her first free day out of the
> > condo in the garage yesterday and didn't cooperate to be re-crated
> > last night. I "thought" I had a good hold but she won. It may
>! ; > be months before she allows me to approach her again :(
> >
> > Del
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* Nina
> > *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > *Sent:* Thursday, October 14, 2004 1:46 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: scruffing your cat
> >
> > I forgot to mention, hold him facing away from you, that way if you
> > don't have as firm a hold on him as you thought, you won't be as
> > likely
> > to get scratched!
> >
> > Nina wrote:
> >
> > > Practice scruffing one of your calmer cats. Get a gentle handful of
> > > skin and fir at the back of the neck and to the shoulder blades
> > with
> > > your full fist. You'll probably notice your cat relax when you do
> > > that. Keep him on the ground or t! able while you firmly hold him
> > this
> > > way and he won't be able to struggle. It's great for a
> > frightened cat
> > > a the vet's office. If you lift them off the ground, they'll go
> > > completely limp. You want to make sure that you support the
> > weight of
> > > the cat (under his butt) with your other hand, or you could hurt
> > him.
> > > Small enough kittens can be scruffed without the support. It's a
> > > safety mechanisim to insure that babies don't struggle when their
> > > mom's are moving them from place to place. Also, male cats will
> > bite
> > > the back of the female's neck while mating. It's not to be matcho,
> > > it's a way to get the female to hold still long enough to copulate.
> > > Nina
> > >
> > > Chris wrote:
> > >
> ! > >> I try it everytime I come back from the vet--but no
> > success--like you, I
> > >> just can't seem to do it properly and afraid of hurting them....
> > >>
> > >> Chris
> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > >> Behalf
> > >> Of Mackenzie, Kerry N.
> > >> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 2:27 PM
> > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> Subject: RE: Fishing nets to catch feral babies
> > >>
> > >> I've never even scruffed a cat--I'm afraid that I won't do it
> > properly
> > >> and per! haps hurt them! I have a lot to learn.
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > >> Behalf Of Nina
> > >> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 1:19 PM
> > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> Subject: Fishing nets to catch feral babies
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I've heard about using the fishing net, a friend of mine uses
> > it on
> > >> feral babies. After she gets the net over the kitten, she scruffs
> > >> him through the net. She'll have a carrier placed nearby with the
> > >> door open
> > >>
> > >> and facing the sky. Then all she has to do, is drop the baby
> ! > in and
> > >> shut the door. You have to be very quick for this maneuver!
> > >>
> > >> Mackenzie, Kerry N. wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> I agree, it truly is traumatic catching ferals that have to go
> > to the
> > >>> vet. Or even catching them when the vet comes to them. The
> > housecall
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> vet
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> I've used a couple of times ingeniously uses a fishing net to
> > catch
> > >>> them, the kind with a long pole. I got one myself, for keeping
> > Caramel
> > >>> in place when I had to give him sub Qs. (I still have to do the
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> catching
> > ! >>
> > >>
> > >>> by hand---I haven't got the hang of using the net to do it). Kerry
> > >>>
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