A lot of people do that successfully. I am just not confident in my ability to balance the stuff right. Knowing my luck, I'd kill them. LOL

From: Cherie A Gabbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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I was tossing around the idea to home cook all my cats food for them, and see if that may help.

Faye Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Apparently, there are more factors than simply exposure to the illness.
Most of these factors we probably have not figured out yet. Some of them
may be genetic. Those we cannot control.


I do recommend, as have many on this list, feeding a super premium food like
Eagle Pack, Innova, Wellness, Newman's Own, Solid Gold, etc. I fed Wellness
until 4 months ago when I changed to Eagle Pack. Our cats do not need to
have to deal with poor quality food with ingredients less than perfect.



>From: Cherie A Gabbert
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>Faye,
>That is wonderful to hear, because I did get news that I do have 1 infected
>cat, but all have been vaccinated, Amber is so special and sweet I can not
>believe it, but so far that is the only one, I am going to keep getting my
>cats tested. Amber did come from a shelter and was very sickly 1 year ago,
>but with love and my fattening her up she is 100%. So what appears to have
>happened is before we got Snowball vaccinated he must have had major
>contact with Amber and it had a very bad affect on him....so mind you know
>I have tons more guilt because of that, I wish I would have known.
>
>Faye Lewis wrote:
>I know how it is to be where you are. It may be some comfort to you that my
>cats were exposed at 4 weeks of age, constantly groomed by, shared food,
>water and litter boxes with my infected cat for 6 weeks before he was
>diagnosed. My oldest cat was exposed 8 months to the infected cat. It has
>now been 2 years since last exposure and to my knowledge are not positive.
>They will get their next test in a few weeks. They all seem to be healthy.
>Still praying though.
>
>The University of Georgia Vet school says that a cat is considered safe
>after 30 months following last exposure. My vet is more conservative. He
>prefers 36 months. However, since none of my cats have tested positive and
>each cat has had 9 tests, he feels they are not likely to go positive.
>People in this group have had very little spreading when mixing their
>positives and negatives. It does appear to be harder to spread than once
>thought.
>
>This is a good group to belong to with very sound information. I have
>panicked several times over the last 2 years and people here have given me
>100% accurate advice.
>
>
>
> >From: Cherie A Gabbert
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> >Faye,
> >I am sorry Candy tested negative not positive for the virus, but I am
>going
> >to get her tested again soon, just to make sure it is not hiding, Candy
>is
> >very depressed because her and Snowball were the closest. I will be
>getting
> >all my furbabies test alot to make sure it this does not rear it's ugly
> >head.
> >
> >Faye Lewis wrote:
> >Cherie,
> >Did you mean your cat tested negative? Or tht he did test positive?
> >
> >Pepsi and Magellan were 4 weeks old and Tigger (the infected cat) groomed
> >them for hours. I just knew they had no chance at all. Thus far, they
>have
> >not tested positive. The vet tested them every 90 days the first year and
> >last year they were tested every 6 months. They will be getting another
> >test in a few weeks. Magellan got an extra test because he got sick in
> >September. He was negative. The vet did the immune system tests to make
> >sure nothing funny was going on and he was fine.
> >
> > >From: Cherie A Gabbert
> > >Reply-To: [email protected]
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> > >Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 09:56:54 -0800 (PST)
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> > >Faye,
> > >I feel the same way, the (5) that I have are all bouncing around but
>the
> > >closest one to Snowball, the one that would roll around with him and
>lick
> > >him and be licked by him, is my main concern, she is only 4 months and
>I
> >am
> > >sick with worry, she was vacinated and she did test postive but,
> >sometimes
> > >it can hide.
> > >
> > >I am sorry to here about your lost one, it seems to be getting easier,
> > >except I just got pictures form christmas, and he was all over
> >them...That
> > >was difficult.
> > >
> > >What ever does not kill us, will make us stronger.....
> > >We all are strong, and we have to be for our furrbabies.
> > >Thanks again Cherie
> > >
> > >
> > >Faye Lewis wrote:
> > >I lost my cat pretty quickly too. He was 2 years old and had been
>tested
> > >when I first got him. He tested negative and was vaccinated. Then 10
> >months
> > >later, at the end of December 2002, I noticed that he was a bit quiet.
> > >However, he ate well, was very cheerful and sociable. Then during the
> >night
> > >of January 3, 2003, he vomited twice and then refused breakfast. I took
> >him
> > >to the vet that morning. The vet looked at his gums and was alarmed and
> > >kept him. They called me 3 hours later and said that his blood was like
> > >pure
> > >water and tested positive FeLV. They didn't feel like they had anything
> >to
> > >work with. My vet is not one to automatically euthanize. He does treat
> >FIV
> > >and FeLV cases long term. However, he told me that he didn't have
> >anything
> > >to work with. I was stunned. I had no idea he was that sick. I am very
> > >conscious of my pet's health and well-being. With hindsight, all I can
> >say
> > >is that he was quiet the week before. Just slightly quieter than usual.
> > >Not outright lethargic. He wasn't sleeping a lot or anything. He just
> > >didn't run up and down the hall when I was home from work. He had an
> > >excellent coat, bright eyes, no mouth problems, no breathing problems,
>no
> > >hiding out.
> > >
> > >It was awful. It makes me paranoid about the ones I have now.
>Esepcailly
> > >since they were exposed to the sick one. Even though they have tested
> > >negative repeatedly. I've been pretty good about not running to the vet
> >for
> > >nothing however I took two cats in December because they "were off."
>One
> > >had a mild respiratory illness and the other was perfectly fine. LOL
>So,
> >I
> > >have only had one true "Nervous Nellie" call in 2 years but it is much
> > >harder for me now. I just don't trust so easily that they are healthy.
>I
> > >get alarmed easily.
> > >
> > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > >Subject: Re: FeLV
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> > > >Hi Cherie!
> > > >
> > > >I'm so sorry to hear of your loss of Snowball...it's so devastating
>to
> > >lose
> > > >them at such a young age...Unfortunately, this virus can be
>relentless
> >at
> > > >times. I've only been dealing with FeLV for a few years, but I can
>tell
> > > >you that I lost one baby in a matter of days; he was perfectly
>healthy
> > >one
> > > >day until I noticed that he was breathing just a little bit heavier
> >than
> > > >the others. Within a matter of a few days, he was diagnosed with a
> >tumor
> > > >in his chest and we had to let him go (the tumor was inoperable and
>he
> > >just
> > > >couldn't breathe due to the build-up of fluid in his chest cavity). I
> > > >still can't believe how quickly he went...
> > > >
> > > >On the other hand, we had a cat, Charlie (also FeLV+) fight anemia
>for
> > >more
> > > >than 6 months before finally succumbing to his illness. And then
>again,
> > >we
> > > >still have Charlie's two brothers (who will be 3 years old this year)
> >who
> > > >are going strong. Generally speaking, cats who are born with FeLV or
> > > >contract the virus at a young age don't typically have a life span
> > >greater
> > > >than a few years...but there are always exceptions to the rules! :)
>We
> > > >had a litter of 5 cats born with the virus...we lost 2 at arouond a
> >year
> > >of
> > > >age and 1 at around 18 months. The remaining two, like I said, are
> >still
> > > >going strong (knock-on-wood!)...I don't know why these two are able
>to
> > >live
> > > >with the virus while the others just couldn't...but every day with
>them
> > >is
> > > >a day that I will always treasure...all of my FeLV babies are my
>little
> > > >heros and I'll always be their biggest fan... :)
> > > >
> > > >Anyway, again, I'm so sorry for your loss...you and your son will be
>in
> > >my
> > > >thoughts!
> > > >
> > > >Jen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: Cherie A Gabbert
> > > >Date: Friday, January 7, 2005 10:17 am
> > > >Subject: Re: FeLV
> > > >
> > > > > Everyone has beed tested recently, my concern is that it happened
> > > > > so fast and so consuming.
> > > > >
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:In a message dated 1/7/2005 1:13:59 A.M.
> > > > > Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > > > > Snowball was only 6 months old and his parents were clean, the
> > > > > only stress aside from the normal would have been he ws fixed a
> > > > > week or so prior to all of this. If I would have known this would
> > > > > have happened I would have let him run wild and not get him fixed,
> > > > > I have guilt over that....
> > > > >
> > > > > It is possible that might be the cause..but not from the
> > > > > stress..he could have gotten an infection!! Did you notice
> > > > > anything unusual around that area..or did it seem to be heling
> > > > > nicely? Have you thought of having an autopsy done on him? If
> > > > > his parents were clean..is FeLV-..and you are 100% sure of
> > > > > it...and he has not been exposed to any other cats...I dont see
> > > > > how he could have gotten it...it has to come from DIRECT fluid
> > > > > contact of an infected cat....you said you have other cats..have
> > > > > they all been tested recently? How recent were the parent cats
> > > > > tested?
> > > > >
> > > > > Lisa
> > > > > and fur-brats
> > > > > Akira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar
> > > > > Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESS
> > > > > Lance- Mini wire haired dashchund
> > > > > Bow-Tie- 2yr old (ssshhhh he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel
> > > > > crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatiel
> > > > > Anza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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