I agree with Susanne that everyone should feel welcome at the FEniCS
meeting. My view is that we should not reject any talks, unless they are
completely crazy and perhaps not even then... Kent's zombie-talk is one of
the highlights of our meetings so far. :-)

At the same time: this year's meeting has been outsourced to our friends at
Imperial and I don't want to tell them how to run the show.

I hope I'll see you in London Susanne!

--
Anders


mån 11 maj 2015 kl 14:53 skrev Claus, Susanne <[email protected]>:

>  Dear Marie,
>
>  Thank you for your reply.
> I was very much looking forward to seeing you too.
> I still have not made a definite decision about my attendance.
>
>  I would really like to see you and others.
>
>  Like you mentioned, I am sure that a poster session can be very good and
> constructive.
> What I am struggling with is the way contributors were sorted into oral
> presenters and poster presenters for FEniCS 15 through a non-transparent
> review process with negative comments that gave contributors no choice and
> made the poster session a session of participants that were rejected for
> presentations.
>
>  I am sure that like me a lot of other participants might consider not to
> attend the conference because of how their contribution was handled.  There
> must be a better solution.
>
>  Best wishes,
> Susanne
>
>   From: Marie <[email protected]>
> Date: Monday, 11 May 2015 12:36
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [FEniCS] FEniCS 15 Rejection
>
>
> Dear Susanne,
>
> I am very sorry to hear that you are not planning on attending FEniCS
> '15 this year, I was very much looking forward to seeing you
> again.
>
> At SIAM CSE this year, there was approximately 300 posters and the
> poster sessions was one of the highlights of the conference: they were
> extremely enjoyable, interesting and constructive. I easily believe
> that this also can be the case for the poster session at FEniCS this
> year and in years to come, and I am looking forward to being a part of
> it myself (as a small contributor to the dolfin-adjoint poster). Could
> you somehow be persuaded to change your mind about contributing?
>
> Disclaimer: I have had absolutely nothing to do with the organization
> of FEniCS '15 this year.
>
> Best,
>   Marie
>
> --
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> Head of Department
> Biomedical Computing Department
> Simula Research Laboratory
> P.0.Box 134, 1325 Lysaker, Norway
> http://home.simula.no/~meg/
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> Cell: +47 45 66 23 96
>
>
>
> On 05/11/2015 01:19 PM, Claus, Susanne wrote:
>
>  Hi,
>
>  I have long debated with myself if I should say something or if I should
> just not participate at FEniCS 15 but in the end I felt I had to speak up.
>
>  I was disappointed last Friday to receive a rejection to give a
> presentation at the FEniCS 15 conference. I always enjoyed this conference
> in the past and felt it was a safe and constructive environment. So I was a
> bit shocked that I was rejected based on reviewer comments stating that my
> work has no influence on the FEniCS/Firedrake technology and being only an
> application built on top of FEniCS or that I had not made enough progress
> in the last year to present. These are unfair and generic comments. You
> could argue this about most developments by claiming that they are “just an
> application” or that not “enough” progress was achieved.
>
>  Additionally to these unclear reviewer comments, I did not understand
> that there even was a pending decision on whether the contribution was
> categorised as a poster or as a presentation. This should have been made
> clear from the beginning. Now, it seems more like an emergency solution to
> me.
>
> I understand that it is a challenge to schedule the high number of
> presentations but forcing people into presenting posters with negative
> comments is the wrong way to go about solving this challenge.
>
> What message does this send and what atmosphere does this create?
> Would it not be possible to schedule the presentations in a different way
> (e.g. shorter time-slots per presentation, or different presentation
> time-frames) and give everyone a chance to speak?
>
>  Best wishes,
> Susanne Claus
>
>
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