She was there, exercising her free speech rights in a public space in what I felt was a polite, respectful, and unobtrusive way. I argued with her about it, not so much because I disagree but because I wanted to see if she knew her stuff or was just hanging out in an echo canyon. She knew her topic, knew the counter-arguments, and was genuine.
Given some of the other stuff we argue about at these meetings (international intellectual property issues, for example?), it hardly seems to fair to attempt to regulate one person's right to peaceably petition the legislature, especially in a public venue. I hope that while we might not agree on a particular solution to global warming and while we might not agree that global warming is real, we can agree that if somebody wants to gather signatures or engage in any other political activity, they should be allowed to do so so long as it is polite, respectful, and reasonably unobtrusive. I hope further that we agree to disagree on what "polite", "respectful" and "reasonably unobtrusive" mean. Let's face it: we don't agree on any of those attributes now and have not for as long as I can remember. Jeff On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 5:00 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Send Fest-list mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.blug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fest-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Fest-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: soliciting signatures at linuxfest (David Griffith) > 2. Re: soliciting signatures at linuxfest (Chuck Wolber) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 05:24:07 -0700 > From: David Griffith <[email protected]> > To: LinuxFest Northwest Discussion <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Fest-list] soliciting signatures at linuxfest > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On April 27, 2018 6:57:57 PM PDT, "Brian C. Lane" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 12:30:27PM -0700, Aaron wrote: > >> My wife just signed up to collect signatures for something call "Yes > >on > >> 1631" (a Washington State proposal to collect fees on fossil fuel > >energy > >> production to promote alternative energy development) and would like > >to > >> know what the policy is on that at LinuxFest. Would someone be > >allowed > >> to show up with a clipboard and collect signatures at the linuxfest > >> event (outside? inside?), or if one would need to find a community > >> sponsor that would be willing to allow them to collect around their > >> table, or if it is just too darn late. > > > >Personally I'd rather not see signature gathering at LFNW, no matter > >what the subject. > > > > > >-- > >http://www.brianlane.com > >_______________________________________________ > >Fest-list mailing list > >[email protected] > >http://lists.blug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fest-list > > I agree. To allow it would invite animosity over whatever the subject > is. Maybe this can be discussed in depth at a planning meeting. > -- > David Griffith > [email protected] > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://lists.blug.org/pipermail/fest-list/ > attachments/20180428/432aea4a/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 01:07:19 +0000 > From: Chuck Wolber <[email protected]> > To: LinuxFest Northwest Discussion <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Fest-list] soliciting signatures at linuxfest > Message-ID: > <CAB=6tBTioXLVrHqe7RTV0a1G8TFR4vEac7qAv67b+TOjC1TNiw@mail. > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > To pile on, I agree as well. Unless the topic is specifically related to > open source and/or Linux, like an initiative that would force WA state to > consider using OSS and/or Linux, I would like to see LFNW stay as far away > from politics as possible. > > That all being said, BTC is a public institution, and BTC runs the actual > LFNW event, so the point may be moot. It may not be legal to prevent > someone from gathering signatures in a public place like BTC, but IANAL... > > ..Ch:W.. > > On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 05:25 David Griffith <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On April 27, 2018 6:57:57 PM PDT, "Brian C. Lane" <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 12:30:27PM -0700, Aaron wrote: > >> > >>> My wife just signed up to collect signatures for something call "Yes > on > >>> 1631" (a Washington State proposal to collect fees on fossil fuel > energy > >>> production to promote alternative energy development) and would like > to > >>> know what the policy is on that at LinuxFest. Would someone be allowed > >>> to show up with a clipboard and collect signatures at the linuxfest > >>> event (outside? inside?), or if one would need to find a community > >>> sponsor that would be willing to allow them to collect around their > >>> table, or if it is just too darn late. > >>> > >> > >> Personally I'd rather not see signature gathering at LFNW, no matter > >> what the subject. > >> > >> > > I agree. To allow it would invite animosity over whatever the subject is. > > Maybe this can be discussed in depth at a planning meeting. > > > > -- > > David Griffith > > [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > > Fest-list mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.blug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fest-list > > > -- > ?I would challenge anyone here to think of a question upon which we once > had a scientific answer, however inadequate, but for which now the best > answer is a religious one." -Sam Harris > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://lists.blug.org/pipermail/fest-list/ > attachments/20180429/f21edd43/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fest-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.blug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fest-list > > > End of Fest-list Digest, Vol 107, Issue 5 > ***************************************** > -- Jeff Silverman, linux sysadmin nine two four twentieth avenue east Seattle, WA, nine eight one one two -3507 (253) 459-2318 [email protected] (note the zero!) http://www.commercialventvac.com See my portfolio of writings and talks <http://www.commercialventvac.com/portfolio.html>
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