On 11/11/2023 3:02 PM, Paul B Mahol wrote:
On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 6:29 PM Michael Niedermayer <mich...@niedermayer.cc>
wrote:

On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 12:06:03AM -0300, James Almer wrote:
On 11/10/2023 11:24 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 11:58:29PM +0100, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote:
On Thu, 9 Nov 2023, at 23:49, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 08:30:15PM +0100, Jean-Baptiste Kempf
wrote:


On Thu, 9 Nov 2023, at 19:15, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 07:53:33PM +0200, Rémi Denis-Courmont
wrote:
Le torstaina 9. marraskuuta 2023, 19.41.53 EET Michael
Niedermayer a écrit :
[...]
If you think some people should be added, as far as I am
concerned, you are of
course welcome to nudge them via private message to friendly
remind them that
they can nominate themselves.

so what i will do then is
If a developer was in the GA before || are just under the
threshold but
active || are part of the infra teams and packaging
i will leave them in the list to be added (that is also what
jb suggested)

Of course, this seems reasonable.

I will contact them and ask if they want to be in the GA and

You should contact who you want, or think is necessary.
But they should step forward and say so publicly that they are
candidates.
[...]

Also, at that time, I did not bring a list of 20 candidates who are,
for the most part, inactive.
While asking "trust me, I will get their approval in private, but
they will not speak on the mailing list".

ok, maybe we should just slow down a bit delay the vote by a few days
and
discuss this to reduce peoples anxiety? :)


Lets take a step back and look at what i suggested and discuss this a
bit first
I also have to say that this looks a bit like Xenophobia to me to be
honest.

How did you even get to that conclusion?

There was a swift and defensive reaction from multiple people when
i suggested to nominate several of the main authors of FFmpeg to the GA.
(Who many people have had no contact with for many years and many probably
  never had)

People who interact regularly even if they dont like each other dont react
that way.
ive over the last decades seen this behavior commonly occur when one group
is
confronted with the potential introduction to their territory of another
group
they have had little recent contact.

This seems a fundamental, unconcious and instinctive reaction humans have.
I called it Xenophobia, cuz it seemed like a similar concept.

Do you disagree ? (not about the term but this sort of behavior is
happening)


Do not try to input your projections onto us.

There is no point to infiltrate your spies into community.

You're throwing more fuel to the fire. Your email would have been fine without this line. I asked you to tone things down and you go and write this.

Only people that give work to project can vote for project future, no
people that left project.

If someone nominates them, and said nomination is accepted, then they can participate. But if they left, it's likely that they don't want to participate to begin with.
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