On 1/3/2024 12:04 AM, Lynne wrote:
Jan 3, 2024, 02:22 by jamr...@gmail.com:

On 1/2/2024 9:56 PM, Lynne wrote:

As some of you know, my laptop died nearly 2 years ago, and
I've been working on a desktop machine, which is currently a Zen 3.
AVX512 has become more popular in the meantime, with Zen 4
and future AMD CPUs shipping with it, but currently, we have very
little AVX512.
In short, I'd like a machine which runs an AVX512-capable
AMD CPU, and as the world is opening up more and more, I'd
like for it to be portable.

I've looked around a lot, but as Intel still has a firm monopoly,
the options are limited (7940H(S), 7945HX, 7845HX, 8945HS).
What I think I've settled for is an ASUS Vivobook Pro 15, with a
7940HS CPU (the second least powerful Zen 4 mobile CPU),


7940HS is the highest Ryzen 9 model from the 7040 series. Not sure where you 
got second least powerful from.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Ryzen_processors#Phoenix_(7040_series,_Zen_4/RDNA3_based)


Was reading Wikipedia, and thought it was a Zen 3, my mistake
(and AMD's mistake for making 4 versioning formats):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Ryzen_processors


currently trading for 1999.0 EUR on amazon.de.

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Vivobook-Display-R9-7940HS-Windows-Keyboard/dp/B0BRYTS8MR

The other alternative I've found is a Lenovo Legion 7 Pro, but
it's more expensive at 2399 EUR (currently seems temporarily
discounted due to the holidays).


I see a Lenovo Yoga Pro 7 available for 1099 EUR. 
https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Lenovo-Display-Graphics-Blue-Green-Premium/dp/B0CGLPVQHK/

Same amount of RAM, screen resolution and storage, and a Ryzen 7.


It's a good suggestion, but I have a better one, that's somewhat more expensive,
but has a better screen, better build quality, and is cheaper than the Vivobook:

A Lenovo ThinkPad P14s Gen 4 with the following options:
  - Windows 14 Home (if you don't pick Windows, the OLED display is not 
available for no reason)
  - 32Gb of RAM
  - 1Tb "performance" SSD (it's 70 EUR more, but twice the size)
  - 2880x1800 OLED monitor
  - 4-cell battery (only 10 EUR more)
  - English (EU) keyboard, without backlighting

https://www.lenovo.com/de/de/configurator/cto/index.html?bundleId=21K9CTO1WWDE2

For 1.700,11 EUR. It's made of metal, unlike the Yoga, it's possible to repair,
targeted at business users, has way more ports (including a full-sized RJ-45!),
bigger battery, 3-year warranty instead of a 3-month limited warranty,
and a better keyboard.

We have the budget, as we were looking for ways to spend it anyway,
and it's definitely going to last, so I don't think it's out of an acceptable 
price range.


The Lenovo IdeaPad still hasn't been refreshed and uses a Zen 3 CPU,
so it doesn't fit the requirements. I'd take other options, but after
all the looking I did, the only other laptops to feature Zen 4 CPUs are
rather pricy gaming laptops with high-end NVIDIA GPUs, starting at 2500 EUR
and going up.


The Vivobook has a discrete Nvidia GTX 4060, which makes it a gaming focused 
laptop too.


Actually, the Yoga Pro 7 also comes with an NVIDIA GPU, a 4050:
https://www.lenovo.com/de/de/p/laptops/yoga/yoga-pro-series/Yoga-Pro-7-Gen-8-(14-inch-AMD)/LEN101Y0032
(also mentioned it has an NVIDIA GPU on the amazon link, but they seem to be
ashamed of the fact it's a 4050 so they don't mention a model).

As i understand it, it *can* have a 4050. Like many laptops, it has different variants with different combinations of CPU and options like discrete GPU. The Amazon link i shared is for one with only the IGP.


The ThinkPad P14s does not have an NVIDIA GPU, which is much less of a plus than
before, but it does save from having a near-constant constant power hog and 
Optimus display setup.
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