Hi Derek

On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 02:38:42PM +0000, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
> On 1/28/2024 3:25 AM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > At this point, what we need is a list of Projects so we can submit an 
> > application to STF
> > at or before 12th Feb. (at the 14th they have a meeting and will review our 
> > submission)
> > What STF told us, they need ATM is:
> 
> As others have said, the whole model of using discrete projects here seems 
> opposed to
> the actual intent of the STF - maintained and stable OSS long term.

The whole suggestion here is based on what STF and SPI said. There was a 
conference
between SPI and STF where they worked the details out.
Also all the things SPI told us had STF in CC.

I think you should try to bring the work you want funded into the framework
that they told us to use. Instead of complaining


> 
> Furthermore, we *already* have a bunch of money sitting in SPI funds that 
> *is* suitable
> for use on discete projects, but it never gets used. It is a poor way to 
> encourage useful
> work, IMO.

Theres a very big difference. we have around 100k USD in SPI

STF has a lower limit of 150.000 € so we actually need to ask them for
at least 150k to be qualified IIUC
And honestly if you reject that, i just dont understand you.
"Estimated costs: The cost of the work described in the application must exceed 
€150,000 (current minimum)."

AT no point could we have done anything with SPI money in a similar
magnitude. In fact trying to use SPI money for any work failed because of it
not being enough.

thx

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