Hello, On Sat, Mar 9, 2024 at 8:25 PM Michael Niedermayer <mich...@niedermayer.cc> wrote:
> Some members of the CC want to indefinitely ban Balling > from trac. And as our doc/community.texi says: > "Indefinite bans from the community must be confirmed by the General > Assembly, in a majority vote." > > Thus some CC member wishes to involve the public here > (really theres no other option, the GA cannot discuss/vote on what it > doesnt know) > > Also people have asked for more transparency and i strongly agree with > transparency. > For reference, Anton and I banned "balling" from IRC in November. We (FFmpeg's CC) have since then received a request to ban him from trac as well. The ban on IRC was following what happened in #ffmpeg-devel on 11/23/2023 ( https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/ffmpeg-devel/2023-11-23) I've copied the logs from that link between 14:43 and 18:53 below here for reference. My nick is "BBB", and Anton's nick is "elenril". We also received help from jess, one of Libera's admins. 14:43 <courmisch> is Valerii Zapodovnikov the same person that was trolling here earlier? 14:44 <JEEB> yes 14:44 <JEEB> valzapod is his other nickname 14:57 <courmisch> okay so he's active in VLC and placebo too 14:57 <JEEB> yea 14:57 <JEEB> and many other projects which haven't banned him yet 15:56 <zadedfqul> and you will not be able to ban me 15:56 <zadedfqul> You want the Moscow trollfarm? 15:57 <zadedfqul> You will get it 15:57 <zadedfqul> Just do not forget I own copyright in ffmpeg too. 15:58 <JEEB> implying someone here asked for it. you're the one behaving how you are. maybe you feel you're completely OK, but alas that is not a view shared by many. maybe you're much better IRL, but no-one here has had the chance of experiencing that. 15:59 <zadedfqul> BTW, I really am surprised. I helped you trac progress as Balling and now that is what I get? LOL, maybe start with trac then, Biden libtard voters. Is the Russian collusion in the room with right now? 15:59 <zadedfqul> *with us 16:00 <zadedfqul> courmisch I am active also on wireshark, libtorrent 16:00 <zadedfqul> gnuradio (was), rtl-sdr project, all Intel libraries, clang now too. 16:01 <zadedfqul> Are you going and try to ban be there too? You will lose. Just like Biden lost the election, admit it 16:03 <zadedfqul> BTW, banning all VPNs is nice. Are you using same filter as wikipedia? Cool. But again, github servers do no use VPNs, they are real. And so are all different virtual machines. 16:03 <zadedfqul> Oh, and I web.archived that discussion on github 16:05 <zadedfqul> on vlc's gitlab, I mean 16:06 <microchip_> Biden lost the election, can you LOL??? 16:06 <microchip_> another maroon 16:07 <zadedfqul> JEEB: I am the same in real life, BTW. You just cannot ban a person in real life, only kill. Like that woman that said All lives matter in USA. 16:09 zadedfqul was kicked from #ffmpeg-devel by elenril [zadedfqul] 16:09 <elenril> pls do NOT engage the troll 16:10 <courmisch> I blame TypX this time, but he did not "know" 16:13 <wsqacadq> Banning is also engaging, Anton 16:14 <wsqacadq> Just like your knowledge in top posting. 16:14 <q66> https://i.imgur.com/3tv4c5x.jpg 16:15 wsqacadq was kicked from #ffmpeg-devel by elenril [wsqacadq] 16:19 <BBB> man that dude is persistent :) 16:19 <elenril> does he not have something better to do with his life 16:19 <courmisch> takes commitment to contract a VPN just for trolling opensoars 16:20 <courmisch> or maybe it's provided for official Mordor public service use 16:20 <BBB> :) 16:20 <BBB> we'll keep banning the balling 16:20 <BBB> every time I saw that, I hear the dwarfs from the hobbit 16:20 <JEEB> courmisch: to be honest the location from which a person is does not matter at all 16:21 <JEEB> s/is/comes/ 16:21 <elenril> untrue 16:21 <elenril> were he from a civilized country, we could use their law enforcement services 16:21 <JEEB> yea, but someone being an asshole or troll is not is a person problem 16:21 <JEEB> asdf 16:21 <courmisch> I was alluding to troll farms. Not every country has them, especially not on the scale of the Russian federation 16:21 <JEEB> *is* a person problem 16:22 <courmisch> obviously some devs over there are reasonable people 16:26 <ukrainesucks> BTW, Trump just needed 44000 votes to win 16:27 <psykose> i thought you said he won? be consistent 16:27 <ukrainesucks> And so as there are up to a million ballot that were not observed he really did win. 16:27 ukrainesucks was banned on #ffmpeg-devel by BBB [*!~ ukrainesu@195.189.226.40] 16:27 ukrainesucks was kicked from #ffmpeg-devel by BBB [Your behavior is not conducive to the desired environment.] 16:27 <elenril> psykose: i mean it 16:27 <elenril> do NOT engage the troll 16:28 <ukrainesuccxxks> Also, Clinton was fined for Steele dossier 16:28 ukrainesuccxxks was banned on #ffmpeg-devel by BBB [*!~ ukrainesu@91.193.19.147] 16:28 ukrainesuccxxks was kicked from #ffmpeg-devel by BBB [Your behavior is not conducive to the desired environment.] 16:29 <courmisch> +r already 16:29 <elenril> nah 16:29 <BBB> I'm personally fine with +r 16:29 <BBB> but if others object I won't insist on it 16:30 <elenril> I don't think it's anywhere bad enough to require +r 16:30 <elenril> (yet?) 16:30 <bsbsvsvsv> Clinton was found to be using gmail 16:30 bsbsvsvsv was banned on #ffmpeg-devel by BBB [*!~ bsbsvsvsv@205.185.127.86] 16:30 bsbsvsvsv was kicked from #ffmpeg-devel by BBB [Your behavior is not conducive to the desired environment.] 16:30 dbbsbsbs was banned on #ffmpeg-devel by BBB [*!~dbbsbsbs@50.7.115.95] 16:30 dbbsbsbs was kicked from #ffmpeg-devel by BBB [Your behavior is not conducive to the desired environment.] 16:31 <BBB> (maybe that was too early, apologies if it was :) ) 16:31 <q66> 99.9% not 16:31 <elenril> i wish it was feasible to all of russia 16:34 <dbbsbsbs> And also Comey lied when he said not even gmail 16:34 <dbbsbsbs> Judicial watch almost deposed Clinton in that case 16:34 <dbbsbsbs> BTW, Trump never withold aid to Ukraine, it was released by the end of fiscal year 30 September, Javelins were not part of aid: they were bought by Ukraine, and also Zelensky mentioned Biden first. 16:34 <dbbsbsbs> Eric Ciaramella knew Igor Danchenko. Yep. Youtube still bans comments with Eric Ciaramella in it. 16:34 dbbsbsbs was banned on #ffmpeg-devel by BBB [*!~dbbsbsbs@66.90.95.13] 16:34 dbbsbsbs was kicked from #ffmpeg-devel by BBB [Your behavior is not conducive to the desired environment.] 16:35 <jamrial> he had a wall of text in the clipboard, lol 16:39 <lpllpllp> George Floyd was a porn star with actual video still online, he was COVID infected, had a genetical blood deasese and also a tumor and a bad heart. Is not thay funny? Oh, and also he was in prison like 8 times. And he died in the ambulance. 16:39 <lpllpllp> ALEX Soros actually was behind some of the six labs in Wuhan, China, his WuXi Apptech company actually did GOF research in furin cleavage site in those labs. Also, we in Russia say sorosyata for all people in Ukraine in key positions and Voice party of Rada is called Voice of Soros. 16:39 lpllpllp was banned on #ffmpeg-devel by BBB [*!~lpllpllp@23.237.71.12] 16:39 lpllpllp was kicked from #ffmpeg-devel by BBB [Your behavior is not conducive to the desired environment.] 16:41 <andrewprinceisam> Wirelogic Technology AS (Nr. 96237) 16:41 <andrewprinceisam> Digitex organization LLP OC360657, UK 16:41 <andrewprinceisam> Bohai Harvest RST (BHR) 16:41 <andrewprinceisam> Devon Archer, Hunter Biden, Alan Apter, Aleksander Kwasnewski 16:41 <andrewprinceisam> Stephan Halper (Source 2) and Crossfire Typhoon (George) Source 1 Steele a.k.a as sub-source 16:41 <andrewprinceisam> CHS #3/Source 3 recently identified as Jeffery Wiseman. 16:41 <andrewprinceisam> carterheavyindustr...@gmail.com positive Subpoena 16:41 <andrewprinceisam> Christopher Steele is noted as “Source #1”. Glenn Simpson of Fusion-GPS is noted as “identified U.S. person” or “business associate”; and Perkins Coie is the “U.S-based law firm.” 16:41 <andrewprinceisam> https://ccrecorder.org/recordings/get_doc_by_id/450305949/ October 29 2016 28 reopening MYE 16:41 <andrewprinceisam> February 19 2017 16:41 <andrewprinceisam> Franklin Templenton Investements 16:41 <andrewprinceisam> SSA 1 Pietka 16:41 <andrewprinceisam> Att2 Kevin Clinesmith 16:41 <andrewprinceisam> Att1 Lisa Page 16:41 <andrewprinceisam> Somma case agent 1 16:41 <andrewprinceisam> https://twitter.com/walkafyre/status/1248836043752775680?s=19 16:41 <andrewprinceisam> Person 1/Source E/Sergei Millian Source 6 (ex Siarhei Kukuts) 16:41 <andrewprinceisam> Crossfire Latitude Donald J. TRUMP (just proposed) 16:41 andrewprinceisam was banned on #ffmpeg-devel by BBB [*!~ andrewpri@66.90.74.87] 16:41 andrewprinceisam was kicked from #ffmpeg-devel by BBB [Your behavior is not conducive to the desired environment.] 16:42 <BBB> elenril: let me know when you're ready for +r :) 16:42 <jamrial> just set +r 16:43 <mmmmmmmmmmmmmnnn> BTW, you will get all FBI raided for this info, probably 16:43 mmmmmmmmmmmmmnnn was banned on #ffmpeg-devel by BBB [*!~ mmmmmmmmm@45.95.169.123] 16:43 mmmmmmmmmmmmmnnn was kicked from #ffmpeg-devel by BBB [Your behavior is not conducive to the desired environment.] 16:44 <BBB> oddly, my UI has no way of setting +r :) 16:44 <BBB> I know what response I'm going to get to that 16:45 <BBB> tnx 16:45 <BBB> how often do we clean up the banlist? :) 16:45 <elenril> boo 16:46 <BBB> just for a few days... hopefully 16:47 <balling> Copyright (c) 1996 Microsoft Corporation 16:47 <balling> Module Name: 16:48 <balling> faxdoc.cpp 16:48 <balling> Abstract: 16:48 <balling> This module contains all code necessary to print an 16:48 <balling> exchange message as a fax document. 16:48 <balling> Author: 16:48 <balling> Wesley Witt (wesw) 13-Aug-1996 16:48 <balling> Revision History: 16:48 <balling> 20/10/99 -danl- 16:48 <balling> Connect to appropriate server, get basenote from windir 16:48 <balling> dd/mm/yy -author- 16:48 <balling> description 16:48 <balling> --*/ 16:48 <balling> #include "faxxp.h" 16:48 <balling> #include "emsabtag.h" 16:48 <balling> #include "mapiutil.h" 16:48 <balling> #include "debugex.h" 16:48 <balling> } 16:48 <balling> nFaxNumberCpm = _tcscmp(lpcRecipient1->lptstrFaxNumber, lpcRecipient2->lptstrFaxNumber); 16:48 <balling> if(nFaxNumberCpm < 0) 16:48 <balling> { 16:48 <balling> bRes = true; 16:48 <balling> } 16:48 <balling> else if(nFaxNumberCpm == 0) 16:48 <balling> { 16:48 <balling> // 16:48 <balling> // The fax numbers are same 16:48 <balling> // lets compare the names 16:48 <balling> // 16:48 <balling> if(lpcRecipient1->lptstrName && lpcRecipient2->lptstrName) 16:48 <balling> { 16:48 <balling> bRes = (_tcsicmp(lpcRecipient1->lptstrName, lpcRecipient2->lptstrName) < 0); 16:48 <balling> } 16:48 <balling> else 16:48 <balling> { 16:48 <balling> LPTSTR PrinterName, 16:48 <balling> DWORD Level 16:48 <balling> ) 16:48 <balling> Routine Description: 16:48 <balling> Gets the printer data for a specific printer 16:48 <balling> Arguments: 16:48 <balling> PrinterName - Name of the desired printer 16:48 <balling> Return Value: 16:48 <balling> Pointer to a printer info structure or NULL for failure. 16:48 <balling> --*/ 16:48 <balling> { 16:48 <balling> DBG_ENTER(TEXT("CXPLogon::MyGetPrinter")); 16:48 <balling> PVOID PrinterInfo = NULL; 16:48 <balling> HANDLE hPrinter = NULL; 16:48 <balling> DWORD Bytes; 16:48 <balling> PRINTER_DEFAULTS PrinterDefaults; 16:48 <balling> PrinterDefaults.pDatatype = NULL; 16:48 <balling> Microsoft Server 2003 source code. Lets go. Everyone who sees it cannot pull code in many projects 16:48 <balling> Oopsie 16:48 <balling> You are all now forever tained. 16:48 <balling> *tainted 16:49 balling was banned on #ffmpeg-devel by BBB [*!~Balling@141.98.169.115] 16:49 Balling was kicked from #ffmpeg-devel by BBB [Your behavior is not conducive to the desired environment.] 16:49 <q66> looks like +r did not help? 16:49 <BBB> well, balling is a registered nick 16:49 <q66> right exactly 16:50 <BBB> that's how he started :) 16:50 <courmisch> well yes but if the nick is banned, then +r works 16:50 <BBB> that should help a bit 16:50 <courmisch> not until he gets bored of registering new nicks 16:51 Balling64 was kicked from #ffmpeg-devel by BBB [Your behavior is not conducive to the desired environment.] 16:52 Balling31 was banned on #ffmpeg-devel by BBB [*!~ Balling@195.123.209.12] 16:52 Balling31 was kicked from #ffmpeg-devel by BBB [Your behavior is not conducive to the desired environment.] 16:55 <microchip_> puto! 16:55 <microchip_> BBB: make it temporarily invite only 16:56 <elenril> I'm waiting for someone to suggest moving to discord 16:59 <courmisch> any comments on the RV checkasm SIGILL catcher? 17:00 <courmisch> I'll take that as a no 17:00 <BBB> aren't you the rv expert now? 17:01 <courmisch> it's checkasm code though 17:01 <courmisch> also RV expert sounds like I know ***t about hardware and VHDL 17:03 <courmisch> elenril: TBH, IRC is a craptastic protocol. Why do I need a screen or a tmux to see past convos and to receive messages when I'm not looking 17:04 <elenril> somehow all attempts to design something unambiguously better than IRC have failed in various ways 17:04 <courmisch> that's just Stockholm syndrome and network effect 17:05 <elenril> almost as if design-by-hubris is not a good approach 17:05 <courmisch> I guess the commit bot is censored now 17:08 <elenril> what protocol would you say is unambigously better than IRC? 17:09 <courmisch> the one that I would have designed if I had time and the network effect did not apply 17:10 <elenril> i.e. there isn't one 17:10 <courmisch> more like I have very little experience with alternatives 17:10 <elenril> feel free to take my word for it 17:12 <courmisch> which word? you have so many 17:13 <elenril> 18:04:01 @elenril | somehow all attempts to design something unambiguously better than IRC have failed in various ways 17:14 <courmisch> that's more than a dozen different words 17:15 <elenril> elenril has kicked courmisch (Your behavior is not conducive to the desired environment.) 17:17 <courmisch> ooh, electricity at -0.5€/kWh tomorrow 17:17 <courmisch> now that is cheap 17:17 <courmisch> or it would be if I had spot price 17:17 <psykose> spot pricing just seems like gambling tbh 17:18 <courmisch> it's not gambling. it's betting if the Siemens quality german engineering at OL-3 reactor will fail or not tomorrow 17:19 <psykose> :D 17:19 <courmisch> but eh, reactor built on French tax payers' dime, I cna't complain 17:22 <j-b> actually, you can. 17:22 <j-b> It's always possible to complain. 17:23 <courmisch> I meant that I can't complain about the price 17:30 <clintoncrfm> Oops, second gmail account. 17:30 clintoncrfm was banned on #ffmpeg-devel by jamrial [clintoncrfm!*@*] 17:30 clintoncrfm was kicked from #ffmpeg-devel by jamrial [clintoncrfm] 17:37 <Gramner> courmisch: oh, ffmpeg doesn't have the signal catching code? just copy it from dav1d if not, as afaik it should work on all platforms and architectures 17:40 <alexsorosfaker> Oh, I can drop and resgister new nick on email email? Oh. 17:41 alexsorosfaker was kicked from #ffmpeg-devel by elenril [alexsorosfaker] 17:42 <haasn> I was wondering whether there was a way to just temp ban kiwiirc, but probably what you did ends up as the same 17:54 <mindfreeze> all the hard-work to login just for getting hate, humans are amazing (if it is a human) 17:57 <githubsucks> Sucks, it does, does not it? They removed my clang issue! 17:57 <haasn> courmisch: drive electric car, get paid to charge 17:57 <githubsucks> Haasn, it is not about kiwirc 17:58 <githubsucks> Drive electric car, still cannot use nuclear energy in germany to power it. 17:58 <githubsucks> BTW, are you aware you are all logged, right? 17:58 <githubsucks> Hahaha https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/ffmpeg-devel/2023-11-23 17:59 <githubsucks> mindfreeze: I am not a human now? WTF 18:01 <githubsucks> mindfreeze: you can atill use gmail.com account, okay? 18:01 githubsucks was banned on #ffmpeg-devel by BBB [*!~ githubsuc@103.143.143.216] 18:01 githubsucks was kicked from #ffmpeg-devel by BBB [Your behavior is not conducive to the desired environment.] 18:03 <elenril> BBB: a bit too wide, don't you think? 18:04 <BBB> hm... ok 18:05 <BBB> he had ukrainesucks as nick earlier 18:05 <BBB> but we can just keep banning one account at a time, +r does add some significant overhead on his side 18:08 youallsuckandesp was kicked from #ffmpeg-devel by elenril [youallsuckandesp] 18:10 <BBB> /16 is a pretty wide mask o_O 18:11 <elenril> don't irc from shady hosting companies 18:11 <PaulandAntonsuck> Seriously 18:11 PaulandAntonsuck was banned on #ffmpeg-devel by BBB [*!~ PaulandAn@194.62.42.230] 18:11 PaulandAntonsuck was kicked from #ffmpeg-devel by BBB [Your behavior is not conducive to the desired environment.] 18:12 <elenril> what did paul ever do to him 18:16 <BBB> I'm guessing he's jealous that paul gets nominally more lattitude in terms of behaviour than him 18:16 <haasn> does he? 18:19 <BBB> in the pst, nicolas and paul have gotten into conflict situations that I don't think are ideal 18:20 <BBB> and paul is a valuable programmer, but his manners are worse than a toddler at times 18:20 <BBB> I would know. I've had toddlers 18:20 <jamrial> BBB: most of the ips he's using are from hosting companies, not ISPs 18:22 <BtbN> Use ChanServ for bans like that, and set a timeout 18:23 <jamrial> at some point libera staff should get involved, since he's registering nick after nick for the sake of harassing one channel 18:23 <elenril> BtbN: i don't have permissions for chanserv 18:24 <BtbN> If you have op here, chanserv should let you akick 18:24 <elenril> >ChanServ: You are not authorized to perform this operation. 18:25 <BtbN> weird, we must have messed up the initial access list then 18:28 <BtbN> There just seems to be no flags for that. Other than full access list access 18:35 <Traneptora> but why tho 18:35 <Traneptora> what did we do that makes that one person not like us 18:36 <elenril> mental issues 18:36 <BradleyS> that's the thing with narcissists, it's not about you 18:36 <BradleyS> make the channel moderated (voice required to speak), make chanserv auto-voice the regulars, set channel topic to "request voice in #ffmpeg" (or wherever) for everyone else 18:36 <jess> hey, libera chat staff here, need some help? 18:36 <BradleyS> just a suggestion that's worked in the past 18:37 <elenril> hey jess, we have a persistent troll evading bans 18:37 <elenril> seems to be making new accounts too 18:37 <BtbN> The latest set of bans seems to be effective at least 18:38 <Traneptora> BradleyS: that works in the short-term until they get bored, ig, but then they'll probably start trolling #ffmpeg instead then 18:38 <elenril> for entire ~25 minutes 18:39 <BtbN> he's already appeared in #ffmpeg, which makes me think whatever we did here worked 18:40 <Traneptora> it's a federal holiday today in the United States so maybe he's an american with too much time on his hands 18:40 <jess> lucky for us i'm british and have a lot of free time today 18:40 <elenril> he has a russian name and his original IP addresses were from moscow 18:40 <jess> is he upset that there's a but he wants you to fix that you haven't yet fixed 18:41 <haasn> actually, yes 18:41 <elenril> he's been banned from multiple other FOSS projects afaik 18:42 <jess> lol 18:42 <jess> haasn: i guessed from the nicknames 18:42 <BtbN> More like... every bug he could find 18:42 <haasn> he's been banned from the mpv orgo on github for years 18:42 <elenril> and he's been trolling our bugtracker for a very long time 18:42 <Traneptora> it's not the same guy as ZaquL is it 18:43 <JEEB> Traneptora: I think that's same 18:49 <another|> jess! Our favourite sandcat! How did you get here? Watching bans? 18:49 <jess> saw some account registrations that looked weird and noticed they were seemingly being used in #ffmpeg 18:50 <jess> the names of the accounts seemed indicative of harassing *someone* 18:53 <another|> I see. Watchful sandcat :) 18:53 <jess> ^^ _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".