Am 07.11.24 um 19:55 schrieb Ronald S. Bultje:
Hi,
You raise good questions that certainly deserve further exploration, in
fact I'd be deeply supportive of such discussions. However...
On Sat, Nov 2, 2024 at 7:56 PM Michael Niedermayer <mich...@niedermayer.cc>
wrote:
That said, I find the discussions about such key decissions being done
each year
on "videolan developer days", inappropriate and hostile.
Why?
(I know, you explain further:)
Such a conference is great for people to sozialize, meet, discuss
technical things
drink their favorit drinks together and eat their favorit foods together.
but key project decissions should be discussed where everyone has equal
access.
(and not just the option of traveling around the world)
Not only does this matter for fairness and finding the best solutions,
there is
also the danger of political parties forming from the clustering of people
discussing mainly within their silos.
For me, interactive face-to-face discussions around these subjects, even
amongst only subsets of the full devgroup, are far superior compared to
endless email discussions. I see it as bazaar vs cathedral, where what
you're asking for is cathedral-style.
IIUC I disagree. A face-to-face session with a moderator is almost cathedral
and cut off (i.e. moderated) at any point. Also includes hardly any time to
think about the topic if not done before and includes quite a bit of social-
and/or group-effects.
Whereas a discussion on the ML avoids these drawbacks IMO - you have time to
think, you can branch off details, caring people group around the details in
question, you can avoid parts of the discussion you don't care about.
I agree this is not how decisions ought to be made, but early-stage
discussions like this should be fine.
ML driven discussions include the whole chain of argumentation about every
aspect for everyone to follow up on - whereas bringing a face-to-face
discussion to the ML and then iterate on it looses that whole part of the
discussion.
-Thilo
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