> -----Original Message-----
> From: ffmpeg-devel <ffmpeg-devel-boun...@ffmpeg.org> On Behalf Of
> Marth64
> Sent: Samstag, 8. März 2025 01:22
> To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
> Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] The Concept for the CC Installment is broken
> by Design
> 
> > I don't have any reason to think or say anything bad about you or
> other members of the CC.
> 
> Then I apologize if I misunderstood. I have no issue hearing criticism
> of our structures but the comparison to kindergartners came off the
> wrong way.
> _______________________________________________

Hi Marth64,

thanks and nevermind. I truly don't want to accuse anybody of anything and at 
the very least the members of the CC. I know about your intentions to improve 
the community and totally appreciate that.
I also have no doubts that you have done some good things which haven't become 
public. It's important to have community members like you who are trying to 
keep people together. 

My criticism is solely on the structure of the CC operations, which is based on 
many observations I had made during the past months. You - and the members of 
the CC - are taking your perceived integrity at stakes, solely for taking that 
role, not even due to any action that was taken. And when you take any (public) 
actions, some will always think it was wrong or will be dissatisfied. It's 
really a tough position to fulfil.
My overall impression is that the sole existence of the CC in the current form 
is more dividing than unifying, no matter what the CC does - and even when it 
would to nothing at all, the distrust that has emerged wasn't based on anything 
the CC has done, just about what it might be doing. Similar, the disregarding 
or CC members like being from this or that "group" or "party", like it had been 
alluded from various sides recently.
I wanted to illustrate the mechanism of and effects of the CC concept and how 
it can hardly fulfill the intended purposes in a beneficial way (in total sum) 
- no matter how good and faithful and passionate the people are who are taking 
those roles. Or let me put it this way: The CC structure is too much 
overshadowing the good things you are really intending to do.

The elementary school comparison is intended to illustrate which kind of system 
we have: making complaints privately and expecting the target being sanctioned 
publicly - that's not a healthy pattern. 
Btw. if you would really want to take it literally, you would be a teacher, not 
a child, but again, it was really not meant to call anybody a child or anything 
else, it was meant to make people think about the current system and how much 
sense it makes for this community.

Best wishes
sw





 
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