> -----Original Message----- > From: Kieran Kunhya <kieran...@googlemail.com> > Sent: Dienstag, 10. Juni 2025 00:49 > To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg- > de...@ffmpeg.org> > Cc: softworkz <softwo...@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 0/3] tools/ffmpeg-sg: Add show- > graph wrapper scripts (aka killer feature) > > On Mon, 9 Jun 2025, 20:24 ffmpegagent, <ffmpegagent-at- > gmail....@ffmpeg.org> > wrote: > > > The "killer feature" returns! > > > > Different approach - same procedure: > > > > * Add -sg to your FFmpeg command line > > * But now it's not > > * ./ffmpeg -sg xxxxx but > > * ./ffmpeg-sg xxxxx > > > > Why does this need to be part of FFmpeg if it's a wrapper script to > spawn a > web browser (nothing to do with FFmpeg's actual purpose of processing > multimedia). > > Kieran
Hi Kieran, of course that's a legitimate question, and a question that could be asked for almost any new feature in FFmpeg. Obviously, there is no forcing reason for which it would _need_ to be included, so I can only say why it _should_ be included in FFmpeg IMHO: - Highly Useful If you haven't seen what it is and what it does, than I would suggest to everybody to try it out or to look at some of the examples: https://softworkz.github.io/ffmpeg_output_apis/2_hwa_qsv.html https://softworkz.github.io/ffmpeg_output_apis/3_complex_graphs.html This should also answer your question about what it has to do with "FFmpeg' actual purpose of processing multimedia": FFmpeg has a command line interface and it's often not clear to everybody how a certain command line is actually interpreted and executed by FFmpeg. This is helpful for both beginners and advanced users of FFmpeg (e.g. when things get complex like in the second example). Even Michael said he finds it useful and Niklas Haas had voiced a need for visualizing the negotiated image formats between filters, earlier this year. - Highly Convenient This core functionality for the above is already merged into master, but it's rather painful to make use of it - You need to remember the command line parameters - You need to type them - You need to determined a name for the output html file - You need to change it each time when you want to compare commands - You need to manually open the output in a browser It becomes highly convenient when the only thing you need to do and remember is to append "-sg" to any command whenever you need it and everything else happens automatically. You can try many command variations and it creates tabs in your browser between you can switch can compare the different graphs. - Instant Availability This simply means that whenever and wherever you need it... => it's already there It is part of the build output, which means all developers that you can compile, test your work and when you want to visualize the graph you just need to append -sg and it works - without doing any extra work. Same for make install and all kinds of distribution packages. When this is given, we can add a note to the documentation and make this available to Millions of users. If it would be just scripts for download from "somewhere", then it wouldn't be a feature available to Millions, but just something for a few dozens of people who would ever know about it. Those considerations combined is what had originally brought me to the tag line that some found funny and others rather "immature": Highly Useful + Convenient + Instant Availability = "Killer Feature" It's helpful for the masses => it should be available to the masses. This is why I believe that it should be included in FFmpeg. Best regards, softworkz _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
