wm4 <nfxjfg <at> googlemail.com> writes: > Oh yes, politically Libav wasn't successful.
Just to make sure I don't misunderstand you: Gentoo and Debian did not switch from avconv to FFmpeg for technical reasons, but only for political reasons? And, consequently, the changes from FFmpeg to avconv were purely technically and not politically motivated? > Keep in mind that FFmpeg merged _everything_ > from Libav I believe you know very well that this is not true. And I find it funny that you wrote a long justification above why everything had to be merged and here, you use it as an argument why FFmpeg is bad (that's at least how I read it). I was always very angry reading this argument in your blog post and I always thought you are among the strongest supporters of avconv. Funny that this very blog post was one of the main reasons why the distros switched... > So there are 3 ways to fix something: > 1. Never change the API. Well, now you can't fix the API, have fun. > 2. Add new APIs and maintain the old APIs concurrently. You will have > to maintain a dozen of API revisions, and users will also have to > deal with an API that provides the same thing under dozens of > APIs. What could possibly go wrong? > 3. You add improved APIs, deprecate the old ones, and finally remove > them. > > Which do you pick? If it's 3, what is your complaint again? In reality, it is of course 3, but as said above, users switched from avconv from FFmpeg because we tried to do 2, so it cannot be as bad as you paint it. But I believe this was not the issue in this thread afaiu. > The mess also slows down FFmpeg development. So do you want faster or slower development? I fear you will have to decide... [...] I don't really understand the rest of your post, but it sounds very, very similar to what you suggest so strongly (and with changing arguments!) to "fix" your issue yesterday;-) In the end, there is only one question remaining: If avconv did such a wonderful job, why didn't you support them? Don't you agree (now) that they would have needed it? Carl Eugen _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel