Victor Hooi <[email protected]> added the comment: heya,
I'm just going to chime in with my 2 cents. Firstly, I think you guys are doing an awesome job with FFMPEG kudos to you. However, with this whole exchange with MediaCoder/Stanley, as an objective neutral observer, you guys do realise you come across as being a bit...well... antagonistic? I don't know if there were earlier exchange between Stanley and you, but just from what we (the public) can see on this thread, you guys seem pretty hostile, and aggressive. It's obvious that English isn't his first language, and he repeatedly asked for clarifications. But it seems like it was pulling teeth - you could have just come out and said, "Oi, mate, make sure you put up the source code, and do this/that etc." But you kept on trying to score points, and say, no, you read the license, he says, no, please tell me, you say, go away and read it. It's like the whole RTFM thing - sure, user's should read them, but look, occasionally it doesn't hurt to get off your high-horse and just you know, tell them? And the repeated hammering of him, the belittling, the subtle insinuations and slurs, and the huge emphasis on him admitting fault - sorry, but it's like it's all about who's got the bigger gun, instead of actually trying to fix the issue. And as somebody else pointed out, any lawyer worth his salt would tell him he'd be an idiot to publicly admit fault on his website. Sure, if this was a nice, amicable community, and we were all friendly and looking out for each other, that would work - but I think it's fairly obvious this flamewar left that point a long time ago. I know, as coders, we often get accused of having a God/Messiah complex, or just being arrogant, annoying pricks - things like this don't help. The flamewars on the Gnome mailing lists were pretty bad, the whole Novell-Mono fiasco, all the Apple ranting (I personally hate Apple, ideologically, and I don't think they're any friend to the OSS movmenet (e.g. KHTML/WebKit fiasco) but some of the stuff that spouts out of "our" side is really embarrassing). I note this issue is still marked as opened. I checked out the website, I did see a link to source code, however, I didn't go in-depth. Can anybody list, in a nice concise list, what else he needs to still do to be compliant with you guys? Cheers, Victor ________________________________________________ FFmpeg issue tracker <[email protected]> <https://roundup.ffmpeg.org/issue1162> ________________________________________________
