I'll just point that this message is top posted (no crime, just taking notice), because I'll try and keep the usual order as much as now possible. So I'll continue some 10 lines below.
On 2014-08-01 17:33, Luke Davis wrote:
There is nothing I can do, as someone not at all involved with Debian
development (or, except for two frozen systems, not even a Debian user
any more), but I wanted to say that I support your efforts.  This
effects Ubuntu as well, which I do use.

I thought a voice in favor might be good to hear.:)

Regards,

Luke
Thanks, Luke.
There is nothing off topic in my post. I got developers even doing something about this back in April, if anyone cares (as my previous gratuitous detractor here, and as my detractors on the Debian Forums, not so much on Gentoo forums back in April, have not cared to) to look up the thread from April of this same topic, of the same "Libav (Avconv) Imposition on Users who want FFmpeg" title as now.
Thanks again, Luke.
And below follows what Luke replied to.
On Fri, 1 Aug 2014, [email protected] wrote:

On 2014-08-01 01:25, [email protected] wrote:
On 2014-08-01 01:10, [email protected] wrote:
I hope this thread is still accepting replies.
I have written a text[...]
[snip]
[...]I am planning to post it
on:
Debian Development
http://forums.debian.net/viewforum.php?f=19
right after successful sending of this mail.
And it is there.
[snip]
Here it is, at the time of this writing:
Defeat and Hope for GNU/Linux
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=116472

The pointer message shows up on:

http://www.deb-multimedia.org/lurker/message/20140731.231005.32dac362.en.html

as well.

There, and not here on FFmpeg mailing list archives (
https://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-user/2014-August/022782.html
a fact to which I have no complaints against), it can be seen that I sent it
to:

To: FFmpeg user questions
CC: vorlon, ijackson, dmo-discussion

However, in the Debian Forums, while no server... ehrm... fluctuations
happened, as last time on Gentoo Forums, pls. see:

https://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-user/2014-April/021025.html
in bottom:

Wow, what an amazing coincidence, the gentoo forums are down.
http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://forums.gentoo.org

, it has been moved from the Debian Development section
into the Offtopic section,

where it currently is,

and which I feel as an affront.

For which reason, I am making just one public plea for it to be returned back
to the Debian Development section where I believe it belongs.

I understand that people who couldn't talk reason into the other apostatizing members of the Debian Technical Commitee and others in among the Debian leadership who had been pushing the Debain Jessie that way very probably can do little for returning my post where it belongs, into the Debian Development
section,

but please, Ian Jackson and Steve Langasek, can you help?

As well as you, Dasein, who I believe are Osamu Aoke, the man of the Debian Reference tutorial, which I read parts of and really enjoyed, could you revert
from your "Moved to Offtopic" decision as can currently be seen here:

Defeat and Hope for GNU/Linux
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=116472#p548497

could you please, Osamu Aoke?

============================================================

I believe I am making no mistake in my sending to all the mentioned recipients (I'm also adding Jan O. Kechel from publictimestamp.org, pls. see below) along with posting this text on the, currently Offtopic, but hopefully back to Debian
Development section, my new Debian Forums topic: "Defeat and Hope for
GNU/Linux".

Another anti-censorship measure of mine that I deployed in my publishing of my new Debian Forums topic: "Defeat and Hope for GNU/Linux" first post was use of
the, let's give the result to the public:

http://publictimestamp.org/index.pl?pass=search&pass2=ptiddetails&pt=search_ptid&ptid=1236770

The file itself, which tallies with the one published on Debian Forums, just
without any HTML and typical forums' formatting, you can check at:

http://www.croatiafidelis.hr/gnu/pts/

I will next only correct those typoes and replenish the text with the missing links, but apart from a pointer to the new, completed text that I will insert at the very top of the first post of my new Debian Forums topic: "Defeat and
Hope for GNU/Linux", I won't change that now old document.

I will be here for both deb-multimedia.org and FFmpeg mailing lists, as well as others addressed in these texts, to review possible follow-ups, and reply, or,
as necessary, provide further information/opinion/other.

Miroslav Rovis
Zagreb, Croatia
www.CroatiaFidelis.hr

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