> On Jul 31, 2017, at 11:29 AM, Nicolas George <geo...@nsup.org> wrote:
> 
> Le tridi 13 thermidor, an CCXXV, Manuel Tiglio a écrit :
>> 1.23. For VOD content the peak bit rate SHOULD be no more than 200% of the 
>> average bit rate.
> 
> Without a proper definition of "peak bit rate", this sentence is
> meaningless.

Are you saying that Apple’s authoring requirements for HLS are meaningless?

> A bit rate is a quantity of information divided by a time.
> Since it is discrete, there is no way of doing calculus, and therefore
> there is no notion of instantaneous bit rate. Thus, without saying the
> period of time on which the bit rate is computed, it does not mean
> anything.

When doing streaming you typically send packets of 6-10 secs, so in that 
interval the peak (i.e. maximum value) bitrate does not have to exceed 10% 
(110% constrained VBR) or 100% (200% constrained VBR) of the average bitrate in 
that interval. 

But the exact value of that length of time is irrelevant. 

The fact that it is a discrete series is also irrelevant, you can compute 
discrete bitrates in the same way that you compute finite differences (for 
example).  

This is really really standard for anyone working on streaming. What is not 
standard is that ffmpeg has such large fluctuations between the peak and 
average bitrate

> 
>> Two pass encoding is used for CBR and constrained VBR.
> 
> No, not for CBR. For CBR, you use all bits allowed, period.

Can you type a typical example of what you mean for that? CBR is a 100% 
constrained VBR (i.e. ideally no fluctuations in the bitrate from its average), 
essentially. 

Thanks!


> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
>  Nicolas George
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