> On Jul 12, 2018, at 6:21 PM, Ronak Patel <ronak2121-at-yahoo....@ffmpeg.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hey Carl,
> 
> So I dug into this more today and I have root caused what's exactly happening 
> here. 
> 
> The problematic code is this: 
> https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/blob/master/libavformat/hlsenc.c#L1368 
> <https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/blob/master/libavformat/hlsenc.c#L1368>
> This is where the filename is set and the next line actually opens the file. 
> 
> The logic for this hls_window method is the following:
> 
> 1. Make a new temporary file.
> 2. Write out a new HLS manifest header.
> 3. Loop through all available segments and write out all of the entries for 
> them.
> 4. Close the temporary file when finished.
> 5. Rename the temporary file to the target file name.
> 6. Rinse and repeat for every single fragment.
> 
> Therefore, if you can imagine a 153 hour audio file, we write out a totally 
> new HLS manifest 550800 times (153 * 60 * 60 assuming a 1s fragment duration) 
> that gets progressively larger as each fragment is generated.
> 
> This is a classic O(N^2) algorithm implementation, instead of:
> 
> 1. Creating the destination file up front & write the manifest header.
> 2. Append the new segment to the file.
> 3. If this is the last segment, write out EXT-X-ENDLIST.
> 
> There's no looping involved, nor the need to make temporary files.
> 
> FYI that I've noticed the same sort of pattern being applied to MPEG DASH: 
> https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/blob/master/libavformat/dashenc.c#L786 
> <https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/blob/master/libavformat/dashenc.c#L786>
> 
> To implement something like this, looks like we'd have to significantly 
> re-engineer the code. Do you have any pointers on how to go about doing this? 
> Or, would you be able to help do this?
> 

I was thinking about this and I think it must have been implemented this way 
because of live hls streams? Not writing to the main manifest directly and 
keeping that stream open does release any file system locks that there would be 
otherwise. 

Is this the reason why this was done this way at all?


> Thanks for all your help,
> 
> Ronak
> 
>> On Jun 27, 2018, at 2:04 PM, Carl Zwanzig <c...@tuunq.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I haven't traced it out completely, but take a look at the flag 
>> HLS_TEMP_FILE in libavformat/hlsenc.c.
>> 
>> Later,
>> 
>> z!
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