Hello guys,

I'm not sure if I've registered to the correct mailing list but it is worth a 
try:
I'm using ffmpeg successfully for many years to capture rtsp streams coming 
from a tv cable box. But since a couple of month I'm running into more and more 
trouble. Since many weeks of analysing this problem it turned out that 
additional audio streams newly provided by the tv channels are causing the 
problem. Initial calls of ffmpeg are looking like this:
"C:\ServerFolders\Public\Tools\ffmpeg\bin\ffmpeg.exe" -i 
"rtsp://192.168.178.1:554/?avm=1&freq=418&bw=8&msys=dvbc&mtype=256qam&sr=6900&specinv=1&pids=0,16,17,18,20,105,6661,6662,6663,6664,6665,6666,6667,6668,6669"
 -loglevel quiet -y -c copy -ignore_unknown -map 0 -map -0:d -t 60 
"C:\ServerFolders\Public\TV-Aufnahmen\FritzTV-Rec - 1656512640 - 
Schamanen_in_der_Mongolei.ts"
The mapping options include everything except data streams like epg data which 
are useless anyway within a tv recording and tended to confuse ffmpeg because 
of missing timestamps. The problem now seems to be that many tv channels have 
started to add audio streams which are always there but which often don't 
receive any data. E.g. the original language version for movies like Icelandic 
for Icelandic movies or an additional audio stream with a voiceover for blinded 
people. My problem now is that I need to start a rtsp capture a couple of 
minutes before the desired tv broadcast, e.g. within the evening news where the 
ov stream is existent but empty. Ffmpeg now seems to try during start to 
analyse every available stream for valid data and aborts if there is an empty 
stream not receiving any data leaving an empty recording file. My first 
approach was to use ffprobe to analyse the existing streams and to exclude 
audio streams without data which ffprobe detects as audio streams with a sampl
 e rate of 0 and 0 channels. Problem there is that the stream ids seem to be 
dependant of the time when a call of ffprope or ffmpeg kicks in. So the id of 
any invalid audio stream detected with a call off ffprobe must not have the 
same id when ffmpeg is called shortly after. And this is not the desired result 
anyway because I want to have captured everything. When an audio stream is 
empty when ffmpeg is called it should not be a cause for error abortions and as 
soon as there is incoming data it should be added to the target file. My final 
failsafe call to start the capturing if everything before failed is a ffmpeg 
call without any mapping option which lets ffmpeg select the single captured 
audio stream itself. This works always but often results in a recording with an 
unusable audio stream.
Tldr: I need ffmpeg to capture a rtsp stream with all available incoming audio 
and video data independent of if a stream is empty during start. I don't need 
any recoding, just having ffmpeg to copy everything that comes in. Is there any 
possibility with command line options I haven't found yet to do so? Rechecking 
with VLC media player which uses ffmpeg as internal beating heart I can see 
that this displays always all available audio streams when I feed it with my 
rtsp url lists and just providing no sound when I activate an empty audio 
stream for a selected tv channel.

Kind regards,

Martin
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