Den 20.05.2025 18:27, skrev Carl Zwanzig:
On 5/19/2025 5:45 AM, Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
Now I am testing another backup method with purpose of best practical video quality using ffmpeg to encode lossless compressed FFV1.mkv files:

     Analog video camera/player --> S-video/HDMI converter --> HDMI/USB3 capture card --> v4l2 --> ffmpeg/ FFV1.mkv


First, a minor correction to the reference in my first post is:

"For video tapes, we always recommend capturing lossless, 10-bit, 4:2:2 or better"
https://www.archivalworks.com/blog/best-practices-for-digitizing-and-preserving-analog-media

If you're trying make high-quality copies of analogue video, you really need to treat the analogue signal before digitizing it - at a minimum there ought to be a time-base correcter (TBC) in there;

Thanks for your feedback.
And yes, I agree. I didn't tell that I actually have a legacy pretty good TBC (built in a Videonics MX-1 videomixer) which I also used before A/D converting and capturing DV25 on a Datavideo DN-300 DV & HDV HDD recorder.  The MX-1 PAL version, which also had a usable noise filters, was specified as "broadcast quality" with 17,72 MHz sampling, 8-bit 4:2:2 (not 10-bit as its successor MXPro).

So, I plan to apply the MX-1/TBC between the S-video player and the A/D converter the HDMI based chain above.

My suspection is that the visual lesser color and brightness from DV25 playback, mainly is due to the format's limited 8-bit 4:2:0 sampling.


better would be a waveform monitor and proc amp* so you can adjust things.

*for instance, if the white digitizes to 180 instead of 235 (or 254/5), stretching that in ffmpeg loses intensity resolution as it has to interpolate values.

This is beyond my knowledge.
What I also had available, but possibly is non-working now, is a legacy video-color corrector (Video Tech Designs VCC 3010).

(And not to mention, I also have a legacy Blackmagic A/D-SDI converter + Hyperdeck Shuttle2 SSD recorder, which managed 10-bit ProRes HQ 422 for both S-video and HDV. But last time I tried, these devices were unhappily non-usable due to EOS BM firmware)


So therefore I am still curious in suggestions regarding the requested "10-bit Chroma upsampling" using ffmpeg and possible color noise filters(?) to benefit Analog (and also HDV) backup via HDMI?


Terje J. H





OTOH, if you're only after "it looks pretty good", then disregard the above :D.

Later,

z!
who still remembers some of The Old Ways :D

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