On 20/11/2025 10.47, Ulf Zibis via ffmpeg-user wrote:
> 
> Am 20.11.25 um 16:08 schrieb Mark Filipak via ffmpeg-user:
>> On 20/11/2025 06.39, Carlos E. R. via ffmpeg-user wrote:
>>> On 2025-11-20 12:29, Carlos E. R. via ffmpeg-user wrote:
>>>> On 2025-11-20 00:11, Mark Filipak via ffmpeg-user wrote:
>>>>> In the message I just wrote to ffmpeg-user, it appears that ffmpeg-user
>>>>> added a "Cc:" header.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not only is that undesired, the "Cc:" header is wrong.
>>>> Testing.
>>> Confirm.
>>>
>>> The usual is
>>>
>>>    from name via mail list
>>>    to mail list
>>>    reply to <sender>
>>>
>>> Now
>>>
>>>    from name via mail list
>>>    to mail list
>>>    cc to <sender>
>>>
>>> However, I have not received a double mail. I did not get the cc copy.
>> You would not get a copy because what you sent did not include the "Cc:"
>> header. ffmpeg-user added it to what it displays as though you _had_
>> included it. The "Cc:" headers ffmpeg-user is adding are phony.
>>
>> That creates a spam risk for senders -- us -- because a spammer could
>> subscribe to ffmpeg-user and harvest those phony "Cc:" headers.
> 
> On the other hand, without it would no more be possible to privately answer 
> to a sender.
> Spammers already know all our emails from harvesting before June 2025 or from 
> elsewhere.
> 
> So I more liked it as it was since June 2025:
> From: <sender>
> To: <ffmpeg-user>
> List-ID: ffmpeg-user
> 
> Then I could better sort or search by sender. and with the 2 buttons "Answer" 
> and "Answer to List" in Thunderbird Messenger I could simply decide, where to 
> send.
> Both is no more possible since July 2025.
> 
> -Ulf

Oh, I wholeheartedly agree, Ulf. The new setup is convenient, but there
are better ways, ways that can't be harvested. Those better ways would
require some thinking and some work.

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