Bruce,
For a time I thought that the Epson 'gasfastness' orange shift problem
was something that only affected other users. I thought maybe it
was a figment from the imaginations of overly critical users.
Then I tacked some prints on my wall at work.
Prints on Epson's premium glossy paper tacked to that wall
show a noticeable orange shift in ~ a week.
After a month those prints display a dramatic orange shift.
Prints on heavy weight matte hold up better but I think I'm starting
to see changes in those after they are up for about 2 months.
In my experience, when you are affected by this problem it won't
be subtle.
I now regard all output from my 1270, on any paper, as fatally impermanent
if displayed 'naked'. The prints I care about go into
plastic sleeves, albums, or frames. And, I'm skeptical about the life
of these protected prints.
Caveat Emptor,
JimD
At 04:16 PM 9/20/00 +1000, you wrote:
>I know this may invoke some passionate responses but has anybody in this
>group actually experienced the Epson 1270 orange cast problem mentioned?
>I've read all the info provided in the links given but I've never actually
>experienced the problem myself. Am I in the lucky minority or am I not
>examining the prints closely enough over time?
>
>Bruce Roberts.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Laurie Solomon
> > Sent: Tuesday, 19 September 2000 7:19 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: how does the mailing list work?
> >
> >
> > Of course it depends on what you mean by "minority problem" and
> > whom you are
> > talking to.
> >
> > Check out: For the latest on the 1270/870/875DC Orange-Shift
> > }
> > Head to http://www.p-o-v-image.com/epson/
> > Or you could check out the latest issue of PCWorld or Bruce Fraser's open
> > letter in MacWeek
> > (http://macweek.zdnet.com/cgi-bin/storyforums/storyforums/_2000_09
>_03_0908co
>lorgeek/forum.pl?read=86. Epson has responded to Bruce's letter ( but I
>have lost the link), which hopefully can be found with other related
>materials at the www.p-o-v-image.com/epson/ site.
>
>The problem seems to be the ease with which the dyes ( especially the cyan)
>are susceptible to oxidation and air contaimination; they are found to take
>place faster and with greater ease on the Premium Glossy paper but are also
>found to take place on the other papers as well although not to the same
>degree or extent. The premium glossy was taken offf the moraket by Epson to
>be replaced by a new formulation that has an oxidation barrier which will
>retard the orange shift 5-6 times longer than under the old Premium glossy
>formulation but will not prevent it from taking place. This, however, is
>really meaningless if you are one of the people who live in an area where
>such shifts took place within a day to two weeks of printing since 5-6 times
>longer would result in de4laying the shift for 6 days to twelve weeks. :-)
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tony Sleep
>Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 12:54 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: how does the mailing list work?
>
>
> > PS The output from the 1270 on Epson Premium Glossy paper is awesome,
> > but there is a problem with prints getting an orange cast over time.
>
>Yes, I know, but it seems to be a minority problem. However you're quite
>right to warn about it.
>
>Regards
>
>Tony Sleep
>http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio & exhibit; + film scanner
>info & comparisons
>====================================================================
>The filmscanners mailing list is hosted by http://www.halftone.co.uk
>To resign, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with UNSUBSCRIBE FILMSCANNERS
>in the title, or UNSUBSCRIBE FILMSCANNERS_DIGEST if you are reading the
>Digest.
>
>
>====================================================================
>The filmscanners mailing list is hosted by http://www.halftone.co.uk
>To resign, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with UNSUBSCRIBE FILMSCANNERS
>in the title, or UNSUBSCRIBE FILMSCANNERS_DIGEST if you are reading the
>Digest.
>
>
>====================================================================
>The filmscanners mailing list is hosted by http://www.halftone.co.uk
>To resign, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with UNSUBSCRIBE
>FILMSCANNERS in the title, or UNSUBSCRIBE FILMSCANNERS_DIGEST if you are
>reading the Digest.
====================================================================
The filmscanners mailing list is hosted by http://www.halftone.co.uk
To resign, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with UNSUBSCRIBE FILMSCANNERS in the
title, or UNSUBSCRIBE FILMSCANNERS_DIGEST if you are reading the Digest.
