I don't think the dynamic range of chromogenic B&W is nearly as great as silver B&W. Note that since both chromo and silver B&W is film, it is 'wet darkroom' until the scanning stage. Its true that 'Zone System' includes the work done on the print itself, but the goal of Zone System printing is to have a negative that has enough contrast range to be printed 'straight' on #2 or #3 grade paper. So IOW the neg manipulation techniques: (monochromatic filtering for improved MTF of the lens), Push/pull exposure/dev, all are very useful tools in generating a negative that scans well - with greater 'captured' dynamic range and sharpness than either from CN films or color that has been either 'desaturated' or channel selected for B&W conversion.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Berry Ives" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 7:50 AM Subject: [filmscanners] Re: scanning TMAX 3200 on 10/13/03 7:57 AM, KARL SCHULMEISTERS at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Besides the sharpness of B&W film that others have commented on, B&W film > has much greater dynamic range than color film (some film approaches 12 > stops), an you can control contrast in 'difficult' situations via Zone > System manipulations. > > Lots of reasons to shoot B&W - > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "don schaefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 5:42 PM > Subject: [filmscanners] Re: scanning TMAX 3200 > > > > o o o > > The BW CN films, why use them? If you want BW images, shoot with color > neg. That way you can use channel blending in Photoshop to get the BW > values just the way you want them. >> > Don Karl, That applies to Silver B&W being used in a wet darkroom, but does it apply to C41 B&W being scanned for digital printing? The dynamic range (tolerance) of color film is great, and can be pretty effective if you stretch the contrast in digital processing. I do like the quality of the contrast of my C-41 B&W scanned and manipulated digitally. If you print the unmodified scanned image, it is indeed very flat. Berry ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
