Actually I don't think your recollection is entirely accurate. If it was the 1Ds (Mk1), then it is only an 11mp camera. And when you say "as good as", you really do need to explain what exactly you mean. The 11mp 1Ds (Mk1) is overall, probably a touch better than a piece of 100 ISO color 35mm film. It will produce a cleaner large print (no grain), but the film, well scanned, will supply a little more resolution. At 400 ISO, the 1Ds is more clearly better. The more recent 12.8mp Canon 5D is better still, and the first DSLR that was good enough, in my view, that was worth the investment to switch. (and if you ask the LL folks, I am sure they will agree -- the 16mp 1Ds MkII, came before the 12.8mp 5D, so it might have been the first, but its not the only one that LL considers to be as good as or better than film) Comparing the 5D's output to scans of 35mm film (scanned on a KM Scan Elite 5400 II, and Nikon 8000) I can get more out of the 5D file. To my eyes, it is clearly superior (but certainly not perfect). At higher ISO's, it is vastly superior. It increases its margin at 200 ISO, and at 1600 ISO it produces remarkably good images -- a couple orders of magnitude better than you can do with 1600 ISO film (unless of course, you are using it for the visual effect of it's large grain). Ultra-fine grain, slow speed (6-25 ISO) black and white film might still have an edge, however. I know there were a lot of people running around saying that their 6 mp DSLR was better than film and had tests to "prove" it. That was pure bunk. With the 12.8 mp 5D, the 16mp 1Ds MkII, 12.4mp Nikon D2x, and 14mp Kodak SLR/c and SLR/n (and I really should include the 10mp Leica M8 in this list) 35mm film has clearly been surpassed. I was long a hold-out in favor of film, but there is no longer any doubt. Now there might be a particular application, or a particular look you are trying to get that film may be the best way to go, but overall and for most applications and uses, these DSLR's are indeed superior.
I see further you have bought into the long-standing rumour of the 22mp replacement for the 1DsMKII -- do you have actual knowledge to this, or have you just bought into all the fact-less speculation all over the web? People were spreading rumours saying it was coming 2 years ago, but nothing came, not even a hint. Whenever it arrives, it may indeed be 22mp but Canon needs to be careful. The 16mp 1Ds MKII already exceeds the resolving capabilities of most Canon lenses (including the L's) a 22mp version would just further highlight the weakness of their lens line. I would think they should really focus on improving other aspects of image quality in the 1Ds MKII, rather than just another mindless, and not really that useful (lens resolution limited), increase in MP's. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I suggest checking out this website: > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/ > > My recollection is the first DSLR these guys thought was as good as film > was a 16Mpixel Canon EOS 1. I can't recall the exact variant (Mark 1, > mark 2, etc.) If you don't own that camera (or maybe the 22Mpixel model > that is going to replace it), the DSLR will not be as good as scanned > film. However, if you can control your work to the point where you don't > need to crop very much, you can get acceptable results with a lesser > camera. > > I attended a talk by Jim Sugar (National Geographic and other mags) a > few months ago. I haven't followed through on this, but he said Getty > Images and Digital Railroad have on their websites what they consider an > acceptable camera to produce stock images for them to sell. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body