edy repeating notes question
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I don't remember older versions doing this
either. But you can turn it off from the
speedy menu. It is called playback. Also
know that if you turn this off and you drag a
note to a different pitch you wont hear it.
The only time you will hear the notes is
when you play them on your MIDI keyboard.
The enter key has always added another
note where ever your curser is. I am not
quite sure what you are talking about.
Shane
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I enter a quarter note--press a MIDI key and
the 5 key. I hear the note I'm inserting.
Then, realizing I meant it to be a dotted
quarter, I press the period key--and hear
the note again. Is this as it should be? (I
don't recall this behavior in 98.)
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 15:29:16 -0400
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Finale] ot, was Re: Thoughts on Mac-Sibelius 2.0
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 12:08 PM 4/16/02 -0800, Mark D. Lew wrote:
>The Eudora Light version I'm using is from 1995, so I guess that's what you
>would call "very old".
Yup. I still have it on my 1997-vintage laptop. But no need to upgrade! In
1.5.4, Shift+Reply toggles to "Reply" and "Reply to All". :)
>Hopefully, the new features that you appreciate are still
>there, and we can both be happy.
Unfortunately, "Reply to All" now gives the Finale list twice. :(
>Anyway, my penchant for ancient software aside, doesn't the Reply to All
>command result in duplicate messages sent to the person whose message is
>being responded to?
Yes, if you don't wipe one. Easier for me to select/delete what's in the
"To" field than hunting for the address(es) I want in the headers, copying
and pasting, and deleting public one.
The convenience of "Reply to All" is also in round-robin mailing lists like
our group of country store owners. They don't like the web forum idea
(seems too "public") and nobody's got a handy listserv, so they use "Reply
to All".
Dennis
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Message: 4
From: "Michael Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Finale list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Finale] Mail refused digests?
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 05:42:39 +1000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Michael Edwards.
[Lawrence Yates:]
>Is anyone else receiving copies of the digest (I am not registered to receive
>the digest version) with the header "Finale - Access denied: Unsolicited
>e-mail refused"?
>
>Is this a fault in the new system or in my system (I've had two messages like
>this within the last hour)
I've had three so far, and some of them seemed to contain messages cut off
in mid-sentence. I don't receive digests either. I could see signs of digests,
in these messages, but I suspect they have been mangled and/or cut in some way.
All three contained attachments (which I haven't looked at), and were 43 Kb. 85
Kb., and 178 Kb. in size respectively (the total e-mail sizes, that is, not the
attachments sizes). I suppose it's possible the attachments simply duplicated
the text in the body of the e-mail, or continued on from it, but I'm not sure,
since I am very wary about opening attachments at all. The sender was "Mail
Delivery Subsystem", full address [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I was wondering if something had gone wrong with *my* subscription somehow,
and whether I should resubscribe. Although I am not, even after all this time,
a Finale user, and have usually been dormant on this list, I want to stay
subscribed, because I hear reports about Igor, originally my program of choice,
that make it sound as if it is likely to cause me much difficulty, and I have
not ruled out purchasing Finale at some time - and in that case, no doubt the
accumulated wisdom here will be indispensable to me.
However, if someone else got similar messages, I assume the problem is not
just my subscription. Lawrence, were your messages similar to the ones I
described (the size, the presence of attachments, and so on)?
Regards,
Michael Edwards.
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Message: 5
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 15:48:19 EDT
Subject: Re: [Finale] Mail refused digests?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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In a message dated 16/04/2002 20:44:08 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
> were your messages similar to the ones I
> described (the size, the presence of attachments, and so on)?
Yes they were similar insofar as they were from Mailer Daemon and contained
messages which started abruptly mid-sentence, but they did not contain
attachments.
All the best,
Lawrence
http://lawrenceyates.co.uk
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<BR>
<BR>
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Yes they were similar insofar as they were from Mailer Daemon and contained messages
which started abruptly mid-sentence, but they did not contain attachments.<BR>
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Message: 6
From: "Ron McGee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [Finale] Mail refused digests?
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 15:05:59 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
i got them too. mine were similar in appearance, size, and attacments.
probably just a mail system glitch that goes with the territory in setting
up a new system.
oh, well!
rm
;-P
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Edwards
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 2:43 PM
> To: Finale list
> Subject: Re: [Finale] Mail refused digests?
>
>
> Michael Edwards.
>
> [Lawrence Yates:]
>
> >Is anyone else receiving copies of the digest (I am not
> registered to receive
> >the digest version) with the header "Finale - Access denied:
> Unsolicited
> >e-mail refused"?
> >
> >Is this a fault in the new system or in my system (I've had
> two messages like
> >this within the last hour)
>
> I've had three so far, and some of them seemed to
> contain messages cut off
> in mid-sentence. I don't receive digests either. I could
> see signs of digests,
> in these messages, but I suspect they have been mangled
> and/or cut in some way.
> All three contained attachments (which I haven't looked at),
> and were 43 Kb. 85
> Kb., and 178 Kb. in size respectively (the total e-mail
> sizes, that is, not the
> attachments sizes). I suppose it's possible the attachments
> simply duplicated
> the text in the body of the e-mail, or continued on from it,
> but I'm not sure,
> since I am very wary about opening attachments at all. The
> sender was "Mail
> Delivery Subsystem", full address [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I was wondering if something had gone wrong with *my*
> subscription somehow,
> and whether I should resubscribe. Although I am not, even
> after all this time,
> a Finale user, and have usually been dormant on this list, I
> want to stay
> subscribed, because I hear reports about Igor, originally my
> program of choice,
> that make it sound as if it is likely to cause me much
> difficulty, and I have
> not ruled out purchasing Finale at some time - and in that
> case, no doubt the
> accumulated wisdom here will be indispensable to me.
> However, if someone else got similar messages, I assume
> the problem is not
> just my subscription. Lawrence, were your messages similar
> to the ones I
> described (the size, the presence of attachments, and so on)?
>
> Regards,
> Michael Edwards.
>
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 15:02:30 -0400
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Aaron Sherber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Finale] To the list owner...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 03:16 PM 04/16/02, John Howell wrote:
>I don't have a "Reply All" button on my menu. (MacEudora)
Sure you do -- Message | Reply to All. You can even add a button for this
to your toolbar in more recent versions. It's also Shift-Ctl-R on Win, with
whatever the appropriate thing is for Mac.
Aaron.
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 15:38:46 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Henry Howey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Finale] DIGESTs
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am still examining the DIGEST options. There has been LOTS of
activity today, and the DEFAULT setting for DIGEST limits the length.
As I noted earlier, welcome to the shakedown cruise;-)
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 16:49:40 -0400
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Andrew Stiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Finale] Mail refused digests?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Is anyone else receiving copies of the digest (I am not registered to
>receive the digest version) with the header "Finale - Access denied:
>Unsolicited e-mail refused"?
> Lawrence
Yes! *Multiple* copies.
Andrew Stiller
Kallisti Music Press
http://www.kallistimusic.com
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 23:41:06 +0200
From: Peter Castine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Finale] Re: Word and Finale? Possible? - TIP!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg_Peltzer?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: [Finale]
>
>What i did was using the Graphic Export of Finale after extracting all
>the small Parts and then I assembled everything in Adobe Pagemaker. If
>you use at least 600dpi in TIFF there's almost no difference to Finale
>Output.
Doesn't make much difference until you print to a printer that does
better than 600 dpi.
You could save at 1200dpi in TIFF (or, better still, 3000 dpi). Then you
won't see a difference in the output (but you will see one in the file
size!).
TIFF is quick'n'dirty, but you'll get better quality for less storage
space with EPS.
Of course, if you're not printing with a PostScript printer, you won't
have much joy with EPS.
Enjoy,
Peter
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Message: 11
From: "helgesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Finale] From your friendly list owner;-)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 08:07:09 +1000
Organization:
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Henry, as you may have gathered over the years I am not what you'd call a
computer guru! The 'new' system - what does it entail for burks like me?
Today I received 65 messages, not unusual, but most were talking about;
reply, reply all, reply list, etc. I'm on "outlook express 6" and all I've
ever done is clicked reply,or sent to Finale@ shsu etc and mine seemed to go
to list.
Does this change now?
Example, if say David Bailey gives me an answer to a question, (as he
usually can!) and I wish to reply to HIM (not to list) do I now click
"Reply", and if I wish my reply to be published "on list", do I click "reply
all"? Seems logical to me! In the message below you mention a tab marked
"reply to list". I can't find it! Where is this, do I need it?
Do need to change my Finale address in my address book to the new "unxmail"
format, or is the old address still valid?
I have no idea if this is going to list or to you alone. If to list I
apologise to listers for what some will see as stupid questions- although I
suspect a few more lurkers out there have the same concerns and questions,
or have I missed something!
Regards, Keith in OZ
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From: Henry Howey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 1:51 AM
Subject: [Finale] From your friendly list owner;-)
> As you have all noticed this morning, we have new software running
> out list. The parameters are really broad, and I must ask your
> patience and input as I (even more than all of you) learn how to
> tweak this to serve us all better. Particularly, I hope that the new
> ARCHIVE feature will be useful to everyone.
>
> Please note the REPLY TO LIST feature has just been added to the header.
>
> Keep those cards and letters coming;-)
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 18:15:36 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: John Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Finale] To the list owner...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 2:02 PM -0500 4/16/02, Aaron Sherber wrote:
>At 03:16 PM 04/16/02, John Howell wrote:
> >I don't have a "Reply All" button on my menu. (MacEudora)
>
>Sure you do -- Message | Reply to All. You can even add a button for this
>to your toolbar in more recent versions. It's also Shift-Ctl-R on Win, with
>whatever the appropriate thing is for Mac.
>
>Aaron.
Well, I poked around in the "Settings" module and found a place where I
could choose either Reply or Reply to all, and changed my choice. NOW I
have a Reply to All choice on my menu, but I didn't have it before. Thanks
to all who sent suggestions.
John
John & Susie Howell
Virginia Tech Department of Music
Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240
Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Message: 13
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg_Peltzer?=)
To: "'Finale List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 22:41:51 +0200
Subject: [Finale] Why Postscript? - New Printer
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello to the list,
I know there were lot's of Discussions concerning this Topic in the
past, but...
I'm in need of buying a new Printer
- Can someone explain to me the main advantages of a Postscript Printer
compared to a normal Laser Printer?
- Why should i pay double price for a PS model?
Thanks
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 15:22:58 -0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark D. Lew)
Subject: Re: [Finale] To the list owner...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Giz Bowe began:
>John, I've got Eudora for Windows, maybe this will work for you:
>
>Right click on the [...]
Bzzzt. Sorry, you've already lost all the Mac users....
mdl
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 15:23:00 -0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark D. Lew)
Subject: Re: [Finale] Message which didn't make it to the list
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>I thought I was replying to the list, but apparently I was not. Here's
>another copy to the list. Please change the settings back to where they
>were!
>
>
>>On 16.04.2002 2:26 Uhr, Dan Carno wrote
>>
>>> Generally, I prefer to work in Sibelius because it is far more intuitive,
>>> and requires less tweaking to make things look good; but Finale's drawing
>>> capabilities are terrific.
>>
>>Well, that is not fair to Finale: It is true that the factory settings in
>>Finale leave a lot to be desired, but once you have set up good default
>>files Finale doesn't require a lot of tweaking at all. The problem is when
>>you want to change the "house style", this is where Finale really has
>>weaknesses.
>>
>>Johannes
>
>Our music department adopted Mosaic in 1994 and subsequently switched to
>Finale in about 1998, because of more favorable pricing for our students,
>as far as I know. (They are required by our university to have a minimum
>package of communications and applications programs, and our department
>further requires majors to have--as of now--Finale.) Our department head
>has about had it with Finale and the difficulties our students are
>consistently having in making it work. He is seriously considering
>adopting Sibelius.
>
>With great respect to the power users who are so wonderfully helpful in
>this forum, what we need and what almost everyone in music needs is a
>program that produces professional looking copy right out of the box in an
>intuitive manner that anyone can quickly learn. No tweaking. No default
>file fiddling around. No needing to add plugins or write them in order to
>do things the basic program should be doing for you. I belong to the
>overwhelming majority (outside this list, at least) who couldn't write a
>plugin to save my life. I am a computer user, not a computer programmer.
>I probably use less than 5% of the capabilities in ANY program I run,
>because to keep selling upgrades the programmers keep adding to what the
>programs will do. I don't need those capabilities. In fact I'm sure I
>don't even know about them. The same thing is true of Finale. I will
>never need and never use 90% of its fancy bells and whistles, and neither
>will our students. Sibelius sounds better and better to me for what the
>average musician, not the professional engraver, needs in a program.
>
>John
>
>
>John & Susie Howell
>Virginia Tech Department of Music
>Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240
>Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034
>(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
>http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html
>
>
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 15:23:07 -0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark D. Lew)
Subject: Re: [Finale] Message which didn't make it to the list
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Howell wrote:
> [...] I will
>never need and never use 90% of its fancy bells and whistles, and neither
>will our students. Sibelius sounds better and better to me for what the
>average musician, not the professional engraver, needs in a program.
Hm, I guess "bells and whistles" is in the mind of the beholder, eh? I
tend to think of the document settings and special tools as the nuts and
bolts of the program, and for me the "bells and whistles" are the various
out-of-the-box templates, wizards, and goofy plug-ins that try to write the
music for you. [*]
I think you're right on the money that, relative to other programs, Finale
is oriented more to the professional engraver and less to the average
musician. You're also right that average musicians are the much more
significant market, and if Finale is going to remain viable, it needs to
pay better attention to the needs of those average musicians. An unhappy
consequence of this reality is that we may very well see Finale evolve in a
way as to become less useful for professional engraving, and general
engraving standards may very well decline as a result.
A similar thing happened with non-music typography with the advent of
desktop publishing. Publishing is a big enough market that traditional
standards mostly survived, but not without some adaptation. Even at the
highest levels of professional publishing there are a few minor ways in
which inferior DTP standards have asserted themselves, and in the vast
range of middle-level professional work one sees quite a bit of typographic
sloppiness which would have been considered unprofessional 20 years ago.
I expect the same thing will happen -- is happening -- with published music.
MS Word is perhaps a good model for Finale. As much as I dislike Word, for
various reasons, it does manage to combine out-of-the-box immediacy with
quite a bit of control over the appearance of the document for those who
care to take the trouble. It's still not my application of choice for
publishing (I too like FrameMaker), but the way in which it does all your
thinking for you by default, but is willing to get out of the way
(mostly...) when you know better, is probably the best professional
engravers can hope for if Finale is to compete with programs like Sibelius.
I don't mind all the default features like automatic this and automatic
that, so long as I can turn them off when I don't want them and I still
have reasonably convenient access to all the underlying data.
mdl
[*] I must confess -- although I realize this is very eccentric of me -- I
still haven't got past thinking of all MIDI and playback functions as
"frills". I wouldn't expect my word processing application to read my
letters out loud; why should a notation program be different? I use Finale
to write the music on paper, not to play it. That's what instruments and
musicians are for.
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Is anyone else receiving copies of the digest (I am not registered to receive
the digest version) with the header "Finale - Access denied: Unsolicited
e-mail refused"?
Is this a fault in the new system or in my system (I've had two messages like
this within the last hour)
All the best,
Lawrence
http://lawrenceyates.co.uk
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LANG="0">Is anyone else receiving copies of the digest (I am not registered to receive
the digest version) with the header "Finale - Access denied: Unsolicited e-mail
refused"?<BR>
<BR>
Is this a fault in the new system or in my system (I've had two messages like this
within the last hour)<BR>
<BR>
All the best,<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Lawrence<BR>
<BR>
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From: "Shane Stanke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 14:21:13 -0500
Subject: Re: [Finale] Speedy repeating notes question
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't remember older versions doing this
either. But you can turn it off from the
speedy menu. It is called playback. Also
know that if you turn this off and you drag a
note to a different pitch you wont hear it.
The only time you will hear the notes is
when you play them on your MIDI keyboard.
The enter key has always added another
note where ever your curser is. I am not
quite sure what you are talking about.
Shane
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I enter a quarter note--press a MIDI key and
the 5 key. I hear the note I'm inserting.
Then, realizing I meant it to be a dotted
quarter, I press the period key--and hear
the note again. Is this as it should be? (I
don't recall this behavior in 98.)
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 15:29:16 -0400
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Finale] ot, was Re: Thoughts on Mac-Sibelius 2.0
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 12:08 PM 4/16/02 -0800, Mark D. Lew wrote:
>The Eudora Light version I'm using is from 1995, so I guess that's what you
>would call "very old".
Yup. I still have it on my 1997-vintage laptop. But no need to upgrade! In
1.5.4, Shift+Reply toggles to "Reply" and "Reply to All". :)
>Hopefully, the new features that you appreciate are still
>there, and we can both be happy.
Unfortunately, "Reply to All" now gives the Finale list twice. :(
>Anyway, my penchant for ancient software aside, doesn't the Reply to All
>command result in duplicate messages sent to the person whose message is
>being responded to?
Yes, if you don't wipe one. Easier for me to select/delete what's in the
"To" field than hunting for the address(es) I want in the headers, copying
and pasting, and deleting public one.
The convenience of "Reply to All" is also in round-robin mailing lists like
our group of country store owners. They don't like the web forum idea
(seems too "public") and nobody's got a handy listserv, so they use "Reply
to All".
Dennis
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Message: 4
From: "Michael Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Finale list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Finale] Mail refused digests?
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 05:42:39 +1000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Michael Edwards.
[Lawrence Yates:]
>Is anyone else receiving copies of the digest (I am not registered to receive
>the digest version) with the header "Finale - Access denied: Unsolicited
>e-mail refused"?
>
>Is this a fault in the new system or in my system (I've had two messages like
>this within the last hour)
I've had three so far, and some of them seemed to contain messages cut off
in mid-sentence. I don't receive digests either. I could see signs of digests,
in these messages, but I suspect they have been mangled and/or cut in some way.
All three contained attachments (which I haven't looked at), and were 43 Kb. 85
Kb., and 178 Kb. in size respectively (the total e-mail sizes, that is, not the
attachments sizes). I suppose it's possible the attachments simply duplicated
the text in the body of the e-mail, or continued on from it, but I'm not sure,
since I am very wary about opening attachments at all. The sender was "Mail
Delivery Subsystem", full address [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I was wondering if something had gone wrong with *my* subscription somehow,
and whether I should resubscribe. Although I am not, even after all this time,
a Finale user, and have usually been dormant on this list, I want to stay
subscribed, because I hear reports about Igor, originally my program of choice,
that make it sound as if it is likely to cause me much difficulty, and I have
not ruled out purchasing Finale at some time - and in that case, no doubt the
accumulated wisdom here will be indispensable to me.
However, if someone else got similar messages, I assume the problem is not
just my subscription. Lawrence, were your messages similar to the ones I
described (the size, the presence of attachments, and so on)?
Regards,
Michael Edwards.
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Message: 5
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 15:48:19 EDT
Subject: Re: [Finale] Mail refused digests?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> were your messages similar to the ones I
> described (the size, the presence of attachments, and so on)?
Yes they were similar insofar as they were from Mailer Daemon and contained
messages which started abruptly mid-sentence, but they did not contain
attachments.
All the best,
Lawrence
http://lawrenceyates.co.uk
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Yes they were similar insofar as they were from Mailer Daemon and contained messages
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Message: 6
From: "Ron McGee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [Finale] Mail refused digests?
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 15:05:59 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
i got them too. mine were similar in appearance, size, and attacments.
probably just a mail system glitch that goes with the territory in setting
up a new system.
oh, well!
rm
;-P
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Edwards
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 2:43 PM
> To: Finale list
> Subject: Re: [Finale] Mail refused digests?
>
>
> Michael Edwards.
>
> [Lawrence Yates:]
>
> >Is anyone else receiving copies of the digest (I am not
> registered to receive
> >the digest version) with the header "Finale - Access denied:
> Unsolicited
> >e-mail refused"?
> >
> >Is this a fault in the new system or in my system (I've had
> two messages like
> >this within the last hour)
>
> I've had three so far, and some of them seemed to
> contain messages cut off
> in mid-sentence. I don't receive digests either. I could
> see signs of digests,
> in these messages, but I suspect they have been mangled
> and/or cut in some way.
> All three contained attachments (which I haven't looked at),
> and were 43 Kb. 85
> Kb., and 178 Kb. in size respectively (the total e-mail
> sizes, that is, not the
> attachments sizes). I suppose it's possible the attachments
> simply duplicated
> the text in the body of the e-mail, or continued on from it,
> but I'm not sure,
> since I am very wary about opening attachments at all. The
> sender was "Mail
> Delivery Subsystem", full address [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I was wondering if something had gone wrong with *my*
> subscription somehow,
> and whether I should resubscribe. Although I am not, even
> after all this time,
> a Finale user, and have usually been dormant on this list, I
> want to stay
> subscribed, because I hear reports about Igor, originally my
> program of choice,
> that make it sound as if it is likely to cause me much
> difficulty, and I have
> not ruled out purchasing Finale at some time - and in that
> case, no doubt the
> accumulated wisdom here will be indispensable to me.
> However, if someone else got similar messages, I assume
> the problem is not
> just my subscription. Lawrence, were your messages similar
> to the ones I
> described (the size, the presence of attachments, and so on)?
>
> Regards,
> Michael Edwards.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Finale mailing list
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 15:02:30 -0400
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Aaron Sherber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Finale] To the list owner...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 03:16 PM 04/16/02, John Howell wrote:
>I don't have a "Reply All" button on my menu. (MacEudora)
Sure you do -- Message | Reply to All. You can even add a button for this
to your toolbar in more recent versions. It's also Shift-Ctl-R on Win, with
whatever the appropriate thing is for Mac.
Aaron.
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 15:38:46 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Henry Howey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Finale] DIGESTs
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am still examining the DIGEST options. There has been LOTS of
activity today, and the DEFAULT setting for DIGEST limits the length.
As I noted earlier, welcome to the shakedown cruise;-)
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 16:49:40 -0400
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Andrew Stiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Finale] Mail refused digests?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Is anyone else receiving copies of the digest (I am not registered to
>receive the digest version) with the header "Finale - Access denied:
>Unsolicited e-mail refused"?
> Lawrence
Yes! *Multiple* copies.
Andrew Stiller
Kallisti Music Press
http://www.kallistimusic.com
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 23:41:06 +0200
From: Peter Castine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Finale] Re: Word and Finale? Possible? - TIP!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg_Peltzer?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: [Finale]
>
>What i did was using the Graphic Export of Finale after extracting all
>the small Parts and then I assembled everything in Adobe Pagemaker. If
>you use at least 600dpi in TIFF there's almost no difference to Finale
>Output.
Doesn't make much difference until you print to a printer that does
better than 600 dpi.
You could save at 1200dpi in TIFF (or, better still, 3000 dpi). Then you
won't see a difference in the output (but you will see one in the file
size!).
TIFF is quick'n'dirty, but you'll get better quality for less storage
space with EPS.
Of course, if you're not printing with a PostScript printer, you won't
have much joy with EPS.
Enjoy,
Peter
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Message: 11
From: "helgesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Finale] From your friendly list owner;-)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 08:07:09 +1000
Organization:
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Henry, as you may have gathered over the years I am not what you'd call a
computer guru! The 'new' system - what does it entail for burks like me?
Today I received 65 messages, not unusual, but most were talking about;
reply, reply all, reply list, etc. I'm on "outlook express 6" and all I've
ever done is clicked reply,or sent to Finale@ shsu etc and mine seemed to go
to list.
Does this change now?
Example, if say David Bailey gives me an answer to a question, (as he
usually can!) and I wish to reply to HIM (not to list) do I now click
"Reply", and if I wish my reply to be published "on list", do I click "reply
all"? Seems logical to me! In the message below you mention a tab marked
"reply to list". I can't find it! Where is this, do I need it?
Do need to change my Finale address in my address book to the new "unxmail"
format, or is the old address still valid?
I have no idea if this is going to list or to you alone. If to list I
apologise to listers for what some will see as stupid questions- although I
suspect a few more lurkers out there have the same concerns and questions,
or have I missed something!
Regards, Keith in OZ
----- Original Message -----
From: Henry Howey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 1:51 AM
Subject: [Finale] From your friendly list owner;-)
> As you have all noticed this morning, we have new software running
> out list. The parameters are really broad, and I must ask your
> patience and input as I (even more than all of you) learn how to
> tweak this to serve us all better. Particularly, I hope that the new
> ARCHIVE feature will be useful to everyone.
>
> Please note the REPLY TO LIST feature has just been added to the header.
>
> Keep those cards and letters coming;-)
> _______________________________________________
> Finale mailing list
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 18:15:36 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: John Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Finale] To the list owner...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 2:02 PM -0500 4/16/02, Aaron Sherber wrote:
>At 03:16 PM 04/16/02, John Howell wrote:
> >I don't have a "Reply All" button on my menu. (MacEudora)
>
>Sure you do -- Message | Reply to All. You can even add a button for this
>to your toolbar in more recent versions. It's also Shift-Ctl-R on Win, with
>whatever the appropriate thing is for Mac.
>
>Aaron.
Well, I poked around in the "Settings" module and found a place where I
could choose either Reply or Reply to all, and changed my choice. NOW I
have a Reply to All choice on my menu, but I didn't have it before. Thanks
to all who sent suggestions.
John
John & Susie Howell
Virginia Tech Department of Music
Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240
Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html
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Message: 13
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg_Peltzer?=)
To: "'Finale List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 22:41:51 +0200
Subject: [Finale] Why Postscript? - New Printer
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello to the list,
I know there were lot's of Discussions concerning this Topic in the
past, but...
I'm in need of buying a new Printer
- Can someone explain to me the main advantages of a Postscript Printer
compared to a normal Laser Printer?
- Why should i pay double price for a PS model?
Thanks
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 15:22:58 -0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark D. Lew)
Subject: Re: [Finale] To the list owner...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Giz Bowe began:
>John, I've got Eudora for Windows, maybe this will work for you:
>
>Right click on the [...]
Bzzzt. Sorry, you've already lost all the Mac users....
mdl
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 15:23:00 -0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark D. Lew)
Subject: Re: [Finale] Message which didn't make it to the list
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>I thought I was replying to the list, but apparently I was not. Here's
>another copy to the list. Please change the settings back to where they
>were!
>
>
>>On 16.04.2002 2:26 Uhr, Dan Carno wrote
>>
>>> Generally, I prefer to work in Sibelius because it is far more intuitive,
>>> and requires less tweaking to make things look good; but Finale's drawing
>>> capabilities are terrific.
>>
>>Well, that is not fair to Finale: It is true that the factory settings in
>>Finale leave a lot to be desired, but once you have set up good default
>>files Finale doesn't require a lot of tweaking at all. The problem is when
>>you want to change the "house style", this is where Finale really has
>>weaknesses.
>>
>>Johannes
>
>Our music department adopted Mosaic in 1994 and subsequently switched to
>Finale in about 1998, because of more favorable pricing for our students,
>as far as I know. (They are required by our university to have a minimum
>package of communications and applications programs, and our department
>further requires majors to have--as of now--Finale.) Our department head
>has about had it with Finale and the difficulties our students are
>consistently having in making it work. He is seriously considering
>adopting Sibelius.
>
>With great respect to the power users who are so wonderfully helpful in
>this forum, what we need and what almost everyone in music needs is a
>program that produces professional looking copy right out of the box in an
>intuitive manner that anyone can quickly learn. No tweaking. No default
>file fiddling around. No needing to add plugins or write them in order to
>do things the basic program should be doing for you. I belong to the
>overwhelming majority (outside this list, at least) who couldn't write a
>plugin to save my life. I am a computer user, not a computer programmer.
>I probably use less than 5% of the capabilities in ANY program I run,
>because to keep selling upgrades the programmers keep adding to what the
>programs will do. I don't need those capabilities. In fact I'm sure I
>don't even know about them. The same thing is true of Finale. I will
>never need and never use 90% of its fancy bells and whistles, and neither
>will our students. Sibelius sounds better and better to me for what the
>average musician, not the professional engraver, needs in a program.
>
>John
>
>
>John & Susie Howell
>Virginia Tech Department of Music
>Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240
>Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034
>(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
>http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html
>
>
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 15:23:07 -0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark D. Lew)
Subject: Re: [Finale] Message which didn't make it to the list
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Howell wrote:
> [...] I will
>never need and never use 90% of its fancy bells and whistles, and neither
>will our students. Sibelius sounds better and better to me for what the
>average musician, not the professional engraver, needs in a program.
Hm, I guess "bells and whistles" is in the mind of the beholder, eh? I
tend to think of the document settings and special tools as the nuts and
bolts of the program, and for me the "bells and whistles" are the various
out-of-the-box templates, wizards, and goofy plug-ins that try to write the
music for you. [*]
I think you're right on the money that, relative to other programs, Finale
is oriented more to the professional engraver and less to the average
musician. You're also right that average musicians are the much more
significant market, and if Finale is going to remain viable, it needs to
pay better attention to the needs of those average musicians. An unhappy
consequence of this reality is that we may very well see Finale evolve in a
way as to become less useful for professional engraving, and general
engraving standards may very well decline as a result.
A similar thing happened with non-music typography with the advent of
desktop publishing. Publishing is a big enough market that traditional
standards mostly survived, but not without some adaptation. Even at the
highest levels of professional publishing there are a few minor ways in
which inferior DTP standards have asserted themselves, and in the vast
range of middle-level professional work one sees quite a bit of typographic
sloppiness which would have been considered unprofessional 20 years ago.
I expect the same thing will happen -- is happening -- with published music.
MS Word is perhaps a good model for Finale. As much as I dislike Word, for
various reasons, it does manage to combine out-of-the-box immediacy with
quite a bit of control over the appearance of the document for those who
care to take the trouble. It's still not my application of choice for
publishing (I too like FrameMaker), but the way in which it does all your
thinking for you by default, but is willing to get out of the way
(mostly...) when you know better, is probably the best professional
engravers can hope for if Finale is to compete with programs like Sibelius.
I don't mind all the default features like automatic this and automatic
that, so long as I can turn them off when I don't want them and I still
have reasonably convenient access to all the underlying data.
mdl
[*] I must confess -- although I realize this is very eccentric of me -- I
still haven't got past thinking of all MIDI and playback functions as
"frills". I wouldn't expect my word processing application to read my
letters out loud; why should a notation program be different? I use Finale
to write the music on paper, not to play it. That's what instruments and
musicians are for.
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