hi robert,

in the case where both measures are in the same system, after running the bob PI (beam 
over barlines :^) it becomes impossible to adjust any tuplets, articulations, text 
expressions attached to the first note in M2 [unless one repositions the "extra" notes 
in M1 to which the tuplet is attached to appear inside the measure, then does the 
adjustments and repositions the notes in M2... ack.].   the initial tuplet bracket in 
M2 is very wrongly positioned by bob.   patterson tuplet mover is also rendered 
partially unusable in such cases, in particular regarding the extension of brackets.

follows a solution that i would like to propose.


case 1: M1 = beam, M2 = beam; M1 and M2 either on same system or on different systems
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"extra" notes are not necessary in such cases.   beams are extended, to a 
user-definable value [or fixed to something like 18 or 24 EVPUs] beyond the note in 
the opposing measure [which will allow for a certain amount of further spacing and/or 
positioning readjustments without causing "holes" in the beaming].   when a system 
break interrupts the beam, the beam is extended to the right in M1 to the right system 
margin, and to the left in M2 to the beginning of the measure or to the right [or 
left] edge of the clef at the start of the system [user-definable]?

if this is not possible [when 2 measures are in same system] because of necessary beam 
height and angle adjustments [i don't know if this can be automated across measures], 
perhaps everything except the first notehead in M2 [or all relevant noteheads] could 
be hidden.   then one could access items attached to this/these note[s].

the user would define which "shape" in the shape designer dialogue box to use for the 
invisible stems, or perhaps a new empty shape could be created and selected by bob the 
first time it is run.


case 2: M1 = beam, M2 = stem
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if bob is altered so that it affects M2 when on the same system as M1 the same way as 
it currently affects M2 when the measures are on different systems, the problem of 
item inaccessibility described above isn't an issue.


in both cases, further spacing adjustments using mass mover will not be problematic, 
as they are with the use of "extra" notes with the current functioning of bob.   also 
bob will then only need to be run once.


cheers,
jef

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